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karynnj

(59,498 posts)
23. One of the first US strikes were against the same people in that same area
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:42 AM
Oct 2015

From wikipedia:

On September 22, 2014, the United States, Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates began to strike targets of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) inside Syria,[12][79] which included the Khorasan group in the Idlib Governorate to the west of Aleppo, and the al-Nusra Front around Ar-Raqqah,[18][80] as part of the Military intervention against ISIL.

If you remember, there were tons of questions back then as to why this group was attacked and why no one had ever heard the name Khorsan before. It was explained as a virulent AQ group. In a more detailed article, the Washington Post explained more about them and where there name comes from. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/09/25/the-strange-story-behind-the-khorasan-groups-name/ Look at the map included -- and it becomes clear why - just as we did - the Russians attacked them.

This also suggests that the Russian involvement is not motivated just on power politics to make Putin look big, support of Assad, or even support for the Russian bases. These terrorists AND ISIS are at least as big a threat to to Russia as to the US. (Other accounts suggest that there are Chechens have joined with Al Nusra - if true, it is no surprise that they would be target number 1.

Here is an interesting article - likely too optimistic - as Tom Friedman always is - that does go further than the more fact basted, diplomatic comments of John Kerry that there could be a point where Russia helps with getting a transition government. (Obviously that could happen only if it was in their interest - or perception of their interest.) http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/opinion/thomas-friedman-syria-obama-and-putin.html?_r=0

Likely too optimistic, while in one instance disgusting. Both John Kerry and President Obama are better than allowing Putin to stew for a few months (while thousands die) after he sees the need to help on a transition.


So they will target all enemies of Assad JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #1
I'd use the word scary. lark Oct 2015 #2
we don't have any forces in Syria. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #7
Those 5 were DOD, not CIA. We have a lot more CIA. nt bananas Oct 2015 #10
Look, I'm no fan of Assad, but... Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #12
Just pointing out we have more than 5. bananas Oct 2015 #13
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One of the first US strikes were against the same people in that same area karynnj Oct 2015 #23
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Back from our trip to the west I see. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #26
and I predict this poster will be going there once again, in youthful spirit nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #32
And gone HERVEPA Oct 2015 #39
well, you know, what goes around comes around, so I imagine geek tragedy Oct 2015 #40
It is always easy to show pictures of devastation - we did the same karynnj Oct 2015 #27
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Explain the Iran deal -- that was on Clark's list as well karynnj Oct 2015 #31
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You mean the Russians who worked with the other countries on the deal? karynnj Oct 2015 #34
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Well ... there were the lies that Lavrov told on intentions re Crimea karynnj Oct 2015 #36
the aftermath PATRICK Oct 2015 #20
That bit worked well as propaganda, didn't it? JackRiddler Oct 2015 #19
"except the kurds" jamzrockz Oct 2015 #21
The Kurds are as "real" a nation as any other JackRiddler Oct 2015 #24
Well, there are our expensive trainees, of course JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #18
Russia's not going to enjoy the blowback this produces nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #3
Do they have much to lose? BlueEye Oct 2015 #5
they certainly do have lots to lose. Large borders, lots of soft targets, geek tragedy Oct 2015 #9
"Russia says all opponents of Assad are terrorists" as so do many DUers. Coincidence! uhnope Oct 2015 #4
Turkey uses ISIS as an excuse to target Kurds in Iraq. USA seems OK with that. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #6
That's different because words. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #8
I appreciate Russia's candor. One thing for certain, the West's great 'democracy' crusade of Purveyor Oct 2015 #11
What exactly is Russia's track record with defeating widespread Islamic insurgencies abroad? NuclearDem Oct 2015 #17
I think Russians are just as big liars as Republicans. Maineman Oct 2015 #14
Well...at least they are being honest about it. Xolodno Oct 2015 #15
Yeah, good luck with that IronLionZion Oct 2015 #16
How Obama can one-up Putin in the Syria crisis: Support an independent Kurdistan oberliner Oct 2015 #28
Support Kurdistan = lose Turkey as a NATO member, lose Incirlik US base frizzled Oct 2015 #38
So USA and Western media are openly backing Al Qaeda now? frizzled Oct 2015 #30
And if the US knows where ISIS camps are, why doesn't it bomb them? frizzled Oct 2015 #37
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