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starroute

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9. But if we're talking about the bad, there's also the Espionage Act of 1917
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:46 PM
Nov 2015

That's the one that they've thrown at Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden and would like to throw at Julian Assange if they ever get their hands on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917

President Woodrow Wilson in his December 7, 1915 State of the Union address asked Congress for the legislation:

"There are citizens of the United States, I blush to admit, born under other flags but welcomed under our generous naturalization laws to the full freedom and opportunity of America, who have poured the poison of disloyalty into the very arteries of our national life; who have sought to bring the authority and good name of our Government into contempt, to destroy our industries wherever they thought it effective for their vindictive purposes to strike at them, and to debase our politics to the uses of foreign intrigue ...

"I urge you to enact such laws at the earliest possible moment and feel that in doing so I am urging you to do nothing less than save the honor and self-respect of the nation. Such creatures of passion, disloyalty, and anarchy must be crushed out. They are not many, but they are infinitely malignant, and the hand of our power should close over them at once. They have formed plots to destroy property, they have entered into conspiracies against the neutrality of the Government, they have sought to pry into every confidential transaction of the Government in order to serve interests alien to our own. It is possible to deal with these things very effectually. I need not suggest the terms in which they may be dealt with."

Congress moved slowly. Even after the U.S. broke diplomatic relations with Germany, when the Senate passed a version on February 20, 1916, the House did not vote before the then-current session of Congress ended. After the declaration of war in April 1917, both houses debated versions of the Wilson administration's drafts that included press censorship. That provision aroused opposition, with critics charging it established a system of "prior restraint" and delegated unlimited power to the president. After weeks of intermittent debate, the Senate removed the censorship provision by a one-vote margin, voting 39 to 38. Wilson still insisted it was needed: "Authority to exercise censorship over the press....is absolutely necessary to the public safety", but signed the Act without the censorship provisions on June 15, 1917, after Congress passed the act on the same day.

Until we have Truth and Reconciliation zentrum Nov 2015 #1
He was kinda sexist, too. MADem Nov 2015 #2
Let's not forget his unceclared quagmire into Mexico. Feeling the Bern Nov 2015 #4
This guy won a Nobel Peace Prize... Herman4747 Nov 2015 #3
I think, through the long lens of history, it's important to recognize the whole guy. MADem Nov 2015 #5
It isn't really about the good outweighing the bad starroute Nov 2015 #7
But if we're talking about the bad, there's also the Espionage Act of 1917 starroute Nov 2015 #9
You should lead with something more impressive. JackRiddler Nov 2015 #14
So did Henry Kissinger philosslayer Nov 2015 #24
I would think that there's some here and now racism which could probably be addressed first. bigworld Nov 2015 #6
He used troops on strikers comes to mind too Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #8
Wilson was probably no more racist than most people from his demographic background in his time Charlie Brown Nov 2015 #10
"Most people." JackRiddler Nov 2015 #15
and they are? Charlie Brown Nov 2015 #20
No one's questioning Wilson's historical importance. JackRiddler Nov 2015 #27
you're selectively singling out Wilson Charlie Brown Nov 2015 #28
All history should be subjected to a high level of scrutiny JackRiddler Nov 2015 #29
To be a leader worthy of respect he should be better than "most people" DBoon Nov 2015 #21
This is stupid MFrohike Nov 2015 #11
Thank-You! Elmergantry Nov 2015 #22
At least his racism stopped affecting the people when he left office Reter Nov 2015 #12
30 people? iandhr Nov 2015 #13
I support the students but only if the name is changed to the "Ben Carson Institute for Hoppy Nov 2015 #16
"In August, a professor at Yale University cited the racial overtones of the word in asking students MisterP Nov 2015 #17
Schools should also stop giving out Masters degrees. Hoppy Nov 2015 #18
It's not my call Recursion Nov 2015 #19
And in 40 years William Jefferson Clinton will be expunged for his Homophobia One_Life_To_Give Nov 2015 #23
You are abusing the concept of presentism. JackRiddler Nov 2015 #30
We should demolish the Jefferson Memorial then. And remove FDR, Jefferson, and Washington geek tragedy Nov 2015 #25
reducto ad absurdum JackRiddler Nov 2015 #31
Should the state of Washington change its name? Herman4747 Nov 2015 #26
State of Pacifica is a great name. JackRiddler Nov 2015 #32
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