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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. I would have gone further than they did
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:09 AM
Dec 2015

with the counterarguments. Specifically, in response to "Opponents of gun control are saying, as they do after every killing, that no law can unfailingly forestall a specific criminal. ... They point out that determined killers obtained weapons illegally in places like France, England and Norway that have strict gun laws. Yes, they did. But at least those countries are trying."

It's more than just not trying hard enough. Criminals break laws by definition. That is what being a criminal means. It doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws. There will always be people who run a red light, but we would never say we shouldn't have traffic laws and regulations because they will never unfailingly stop people from driving dangerously.

The argument that stricter gun laws won't stop criminals is entirely specious (and tautological). It's stupid. We need laws and regulations, and we need them to be Federal, not just state laws. (I live in a state that is a hop, skip, and jump from three contiguous states.)

Let us start by passing a federal law to ban the manufacture and sale of so-called assault weapons. And a serious buy-back program for existing weapons. It's a start. We can indeed, as the editorial states, at least try.

Good for the NYT. Every newspaper in America needs to follow suit. LonePirate Dec 2015 #1
Thanks. Rachel just discussed this. elleng Dec 2015 #2
Hopefully we finally reached our tipping point. cui bono Dec 2015 #3
wow gristy Dec 2015 #4
Gun Enthusiasts houston16revival Dec 2015 #5
To listen to the ammosexuals a huge majority of the public supports them. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #6
Depends entirely on the question. jeff47 Dec 2015 #8
I'm for taking them away from guys who get a woody talking about them.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #9
results Go Vols Dec 2015 #13
LOL!!! Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #14
Time for Democratic Underground to get off Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #7
A masterpiece of persuasive writing Politicub Dec 2015 #10
I would have gone further than they did frazzled Dec 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #16
Virtually every thing you mentioned is asked and answered SCOTUS case law pipoman Dec 2015 #17
You're dead wrong frazzled Dec 2015 #20
No, the ban was making it's way to SCOTUS pipoman Dec 2015 #21
Thank you, NYT frazzled Dec 2015 #11
Waste of column inches. Aristus Dec 2015 #12
Why an editorial? Why not a fact based article? pipoman Dec 2015 #18
Good for the nytimes. Past time! riversedge Dec 2015 #19
Big K&R - it is time for civilized folks TBF Dec 2015 #22
What was the 1920 Editorial about? houston16revival Dec 2015 #23
According to the article the nomination of Harding to be President happyslug Dec 2015 #24
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