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In reply to the discussion: Obama says won't campaign for any Democrat who doesn't back gun reforms [View all]EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:55 AM - Edit history (1)
that's a plan to achieve a goal...
ie. If they do that and more people die than before, will they have achieved their goal?
The AWB was a huge failure, because after it expired it wasn't re-upped. And why?
Because while it existed it lost 35% of it's support.
And why? Because absolutely no one thought it had had a meaningful impact on gun violence. And, because there was literally no stated goals for it when it was implemented, no one could prove it was working. They could just say AWs are bad.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/assault-weapons-ban-poll_56715c23e4b0dfd4bcbff62e
When gun violence stays as bad as it is now - and it likely won't be reduced meaningfully by these measures - many, many people will reach the conclusion that control doesn't work. And the media will push that narrative, because there is literally no goals stated which can be met to prove them wrong.
And when these executive orders are repealed by the next Republican President, whenever that happens, there will be no appetite among Americans to fight that, and in fact there could be a huge appetite for loosening other restrictions.
Sometimes the options are bad and worse - and worse isn't the better option, just because it represents change.
And demanding that someone with legitimate concerns - and I believe my concerns are legitimate, and I'm sure many gun control activists politicians also have other legitimate concerns about these measures - demanding that those politicians acquiesce to supporting these measures if they want the President - the head of the party - to campaign for them, is just bullying.
"We cant expect to solve our problems if all we do is tear each other down. You can disagree with a certain policy without demonizing the person who espouses it. You can question somebodys views and their judgment without questioning their motives or their patriotism."
- Barrack Obama
But apparently you can't expect the leader of the party to support you if you disagree with the implementation of one random policy he's trying to push.