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thesquanderer

(11,953 posts)
27. There are some minds a "serious" scandal could change
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jan 2016

To some extent, I agree with you... most people's minds are made up in terms of whether or not they like Hillary or are intending to vote for her, and one "scandal" more or less (real or not) isn't going to change their minds.

BUT... There are a certain percentage of Dem primary/caucus goers who prefer Hillary in large measure because they think she's more electable in November. (Many of us disagree that that she'd be more electable, but that's not the issue here.) This group may rethink their primary/caucus vote if they see this as a serious issue that could effect her ability to beat the Repubican nominee (whether or not it actually is), and start to think that maybe her nomination would more likely lead to a loss.

And that might actually be the case. If she gets the nomination, there are many independent voters who are having a tough time choosing between candidates they don't like (i.e. polls show her beating Trump and other Republicans nationally despite the fact that she has a higher-than-50% unfavorability rating in the general voting population). To some of these people who are trying to choose the lesser of two evils, maybe there is "one more scandal" that breaks the camel's back, if something ends up being seen as something really serious, or possibly even criminal.

Put it on the pile... TipTok Jan 2016 #1
"put it on the pile"; pretty much says it all. nt 7962 Jan 2016 #5
There are some minds a "serious" scandal could change thesquanderer Jan 2016 #27
IF -- note - IF, there really is something there that would be seen as damaging, the problem is karynnj Jan 2016 #72
I'll need a better source than Fox and Catherine Herridge. marble falls Jan 2016 #2
I understand EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #4
Piss on the messenger! LOL! pocoloco Jan 2016 #32
wipe was not what I would call a professional standard." hobbit709 Jan 2016 #3
she used the wrong cloth 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #55
More proof for Republicans... thesquanderer Jan 2016 #66
HRC sent and received emails? Botany Jan 2016 #6
Its the fact that she had HIGHEST LEVEL SECURITY emails thats a problem. 7962 Jan 2016 #11
The classifications are occuring in the release to the public of these emails. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #23
Did you even read the article? SAP emails were on her server. 7962 Jan 2016 #26
I'm reading what it says. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #54
I don't think Karl Rove is the standard with which we measure acceptible behavior n/t Gore1FL Jan 2016 #14
So someone else broke the law and therefore it doesn't apply anymore? TipTok Jan 2016 #18
Rove is not running for office secondwind Jan 2016 #35
The presence of SAP messages reveals she's been untruthful the entire time 7962 Jan 2016 #7
I think these revelations about SAP messages may be her undoing. razorman Jan 2016 #30
Thanks for quoting Fox News but.. sknabt Jan 2016 #53
Do you understand that the issue of marking doesn't matter in the least? TipTok Jan 2016 #65
re: "And they don't appear panicked" thesquanderer Jan 2016 #67
The key word in your claim about the State Department is MARKED karynnj Jan 2016 #75
IF the allegations turn out to be true, I wonder what the Clinton supporters Lurks Often Jan 2016 #8
May I refer you to post #6..... 7962 Jan 2016 #12
Saw that one Lurks Often Jan 2016 #17
That excuse never worked for me as a kid, either. 7962 Jan 2016 #29
Clinton supporters will.... Nuh Uh Jan 2016 #87
After Fox "News" failed to bring Clinton down over Benghazi Zorro Jan 2016 #9
sorry EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #13
Making mountains out of molehills to discredit a Clinton is a Fox "News" agenda Zorro Jan 2016 #20
I see EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #22
I'll say the same thing when they found out she had Vince Foster murdered Zorro Jan 2016 #25
So, when John Edwards went down in flames in '07 Plucketeer Jan 2016 #76
If they find proof she sent classified info which is against the law Jarqui Jan 2016 #10
Received, not sent (nt) Recursion Jan 2016 #37
Received or sent, isn't it given it was a private server? Jarqui Jan 2016 #41
That's a red herring; it's a breach either way. Recursion Jan 2016 #43
Ok, we're on the same page :) Jarqui Jan 2016 #52
This is what happens when amateurs try to be IT professionals. n/t Gore1FL Jan 2016 #15
Funny! +1 jonno99 Jan 2016 #21
Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #16
This OP was ALERTED?? Good lord. Is this 6th grade? 7962 Jan 2016 #38
I suspect there's a coordinated effort to alert on every single negative HRC post Major Nikon Jan 2016 #60
Concur MosheFeingold Jan 2016 #84
FOX? liberal N proud Jan 2016 #19
It's posts like yours that drive me to distraction. I've heard a number jonno99 Jan 2016 #28
Yes! Its SO odd how some cover their ears & eyes simply based on the source 7962 Jan 2016 #36
"Look at the fact that the whole OP was alerted on!!" And worse yet, 2 of 7 concurred with jonno99 Jan 2016 #42
See post #44. ieoeja Jan 2016 #49
Just the opposite actually. ieoeja Jan 2016 #44
So theres never "2 sides to every story"? 7962 Jan 2016 #69
They recovered most in September Gore1FL Jan 2016 #85
Don't really understand the point of covering ears and eyes and making noise MosheFeingold Jan 2016 #31
"You just have to be a big boy or girl and get out a giant BS filter." +1000 nt jonno99 Jan 2016 #34
See post #44. ieoeja Jan 2016 #50
Did and refuted it. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #86
Okay how is this - it shows HRC telling an aide to strip the classified tag from an email. dorkzilla Jan 2016 #90
So on top of the 55,000 pages of emails they have Jarqui Jan 2016 #24
A question? Crepuscular Jan 2016 #33
Yes, it may well help Jarqui Jan 2016 #39
Clinton hot messes - To Infinity And Beyond! Divernan Jan 2016 #48
. stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #40
Bwaaaaaaaaaaa!!! 7962 Jan 2016 #47
Now we'll learn what she really thought of O, Michelle, her in-laws, etc. Divernan Jan 2016 #45
The truth comes out. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #51
I think she deleted emails which were political bombshells & called them "personal" Divernan Jan 2016 #58
So we agree Renew Deal Jan 2016 #62
Nope. SOS's comments, written by her own hand, are NOT "gossip and BS". Divernan Jan 2016 #71
Ironically, the pontential damage could be the opposite of what people are worried about. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #77
That's good news Renew Deal Jan 2016 #46
This topic has been so done to death leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #56
I was looking for corroboration of this story ... Jarqui Jan 2016 #57
That's all I could find too... from September. Perhaps Herridge is a little confused? lamp_shade Jan 2016 #61
A fairly recent rumor by right wing media was the FBI investigation had branched Jarqui Jan 2016 #64
And the differences between DU and FR continue to disappear with each passing day LonePirate Jan 2016 #59
OMG itcfish Jan 2016 #63
HRC not that dumb. SansACause Jan 2016 #68
It's not a matter of being dumb... TipTok Jan 2016 #81
Is this actually LBN? I can't find your headline at the link provided. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2016 #70
It's there EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #78
Here's what I get at your link: thesquanderer Jan 2016 #83
You guys are like kids waiting for Santa when it comes to these emails. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #73
No. It would be debunked with facts and links. Divernan Jan 2016 #74
So some tweet that is only on right-wing sites is stirring you guys up again - THIS IS OLD OKNancy Jan 2016 #79
The problem is that there have been so many fake scandals involving the Clintons. potone Jan 2016 #80
Wow, DUers carrying water for an uncorroborated story Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2016 #82
Usual Suspects...... Grassy Knoll Jan 2016 #88
Fox? The same Fox that employs Oliver North? KamaAina Jan 2016 #89
Locking In_The_Wind Jan 2016 #91
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