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JackRiddler

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68. The only honest answer Ms. Nuland could have given...

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 02:07 PM

Dec 2011

would have been, "I can't say as I do not have the clearance to know whether a US government program of assassination by inducing cancer exists. If I did have the clearance to know, I still would not be allowed to disclose it. If such a program did exist, it would not formally reside in the State Department."

In fact, "I don't know and if I did I couldn't tell you" should cover at least half the questions advanced to her and most other PR personnel of opaque organizations, like the agencies of the USG. They should wear a button that says that, would save a lot of time.

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US rejects Hugo Chavez remarks on Latin America cancer [View all] bemildred Dec 2011 OP

One part of me says this is far-fetched. The other knows better Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #1

Really? What are the "stranger forms of regime change" than by spreading cancer that the US Renew Deal Dec 2011 #3

You might want to read... Wind Dancer Dec 2011 #6

I don't have access to your book right now Renew Deal Dec 2011 #7

It says dotymed Dec 2011 #22

If someone cites a book they should point out what it says Renew Deal Dec 2011 #39

Basically the premise is kenfrequed Dec 2011 #56

Waste of space? Wind Dancer Dec 2011 #65

Oh please. 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #16

It's a fairly simple question. Renew Deal Dec 2011 #43

What is common knowledge? liberalmike27 Dec 2011 #53

Study Cuba kenfrequed Dec 2011 #54

I assume the poster was referring to this RZM Dec 2011 #55

Sure.. kenfrequed Dec 2011 #59

Oh of course its not impossible but then neither is me winning the powerball its just cstanleytech Dec 2011 #4

Personally, I think the "odds" are quite different ... imho. ~nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #18

Maybe Chavez should look at the Russians. Renew Deal Dec 2011 #2

Yeah, because the US has never engaged in biological terrorism. David__77 Dec 2011 #5

So was the infection of so many Guatemalan citizens with syphyllis, without their knowledge. Judi Lynn Dec 2011 #9

The US is also killing off huge amounts of leftists with heart disease. boppers Dec 2011 #8

+1 JDPriestly Dec 2011 #10

So you think Bush's reinstituting the policy allowing for the assassination of world leaders was a Dover Dec 2011 #11

The rise of the left in South America has been a huge blow to the Global Capitalists. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #12

Agreed. A huge blow. I also think perhaps there may have been some expectation that we, the U.S. Dover Dec 2011 #15

+1....n/t unkachuck Dec 2011 #91

It's possible, but using poisons or radioactive rays or whatever to do it JDPriestly Dec 2011 #13

"They WOULD do it" is equivalent to "they DID do it" when there's moral indigation to be had. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #14

Is ''lickspittle'' another word for ''conspiracy nut''? Octafish Dec 2011 #25

It is science fiction. Robin Cook beat Chavez to this over 20 years ago RZM Dec 2011 #17

A lot of science fiction ends up coming true. Neoma Dec 2011 #70

I can believe I am targeted for death by bush, or space nazis, or whatever.... boppers Dec 2011 #19

Ah, so you're saying that although you think the idea is absurd, you would approve? JackRiddler Dec 2011 #67

Or I believe insane, and delusional people, kill. boppers Dec 2011 #96

You seem to be confusing the killers and their targets, however. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #99

What did I mean? boppers Dec 2011 #101

Yes, but what did you mean by "it's time for somebody to step up"? JackRiddler Dec 2011 #102

You don't know how podiums work? boppers Dec 2011 #103

The context of this thread made me wonder, but if that's what you mean, fine. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #104

JD, a few years ago, Drone strikes would have been dotymed Dec 2011 #23

Why would drone strikes have been considered crazy? DissedByBush Dec 2011 #45

I was referring to the immorality of killing innocents... dotymed Dec 2011 #84

Who is killed is a separate issue from the method of weapon delivery n/t DissedByBush Dec 2011 #89

We've using man-less munitions for over 50 years. boppers Dec 2011 #97

How do you know others around them haven't gotten cancer? lunatica Dec 2011 #34

Everybody I know, and everybody you know, has cancer. boppers Dec 2011 #98

Low level chronic neurotoxic exposures are commonly used to kill, maim and disable political/ AikidoSoul Dec 2011 #94

Shhhh. Don't let the secret out. COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #27

Sure... kenfrequed Dec 2011 #50

vocalized musing receives a pro forma, news at 11. NuttyFluffers Dec 2011 #20

I didn't think the U.S. was doing cancerous assassinations JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #21

"Horrific and reprehensible" describes "our" dotymed Dec 2011 #24

"All" left leaning leaders? COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #28

I don't really believe this, however obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #26

I think it's funny he got them to deny it. bemildred Dec 2011 #30

LOL EFerrari Dec 2011 #32

How did 'he' get them to deny it? Victoria Nuland was asked a question by a reporter msanthrope Dec 2011 #42

"Chavez' deft diplomacy" bemildred Dec 2011 #49

R#7 & K for, started to bwah-hah but sad, well ya get what you vote for/Venezuela n/t UTUSN Dec 2011 #29

Apply some common sense Lurks Often Dec 2011 #31

Why any response at all? Solly Mack Dec 2011 #33

+1. bemildred Dec 2011 #35

Hey bemildred Solly Mack Dec 2011 #37

She was asked a direct question by a reporter. msanthrope Dec 2011 #38

She should have stuck with "not worthy of comment". nt bemildred Dec 2011 #40

So, having been proven incorrect, you now grouse about her form? msanthrope Dec 2011 #44

"Proven"? bemildred Dec 2011 #47

The best response would have been DissedByBush Dec 2011 #48

I like your latter response, best....nt msanthrope Dec 2011 #52

Um, it was a State Department briefing, and she was asked a direct question. msanthrope Dec 2011 #36

Google is great, isn't it? nt bemildred Dec 2011 #41

Especially when 5 seconds on it dispels notions of Chavez's diplomatic prowess. msanthrope Dec 2011 #51

Assuming one thinks that clowning around is diplomatic prowess. nt bemildred Dec 2011 #57

That Chavez is a clown is something you and I agree upon. The people of Venezuela, however, pay the msanthrope Dec 2011 #60

Your deep concern about the people of Venezuela is noted. nt bemildred Dec 2011 #62

LOL Thank you! I assumed it was during a Q&A, as I didn't assume Nuland was a blurter who had Solly Mack Dec 2011 #46

I don't think she was defensive. More dismissive. nt msanthrope Dec 2011 #58

:) Solly Mack Dec 2011 #61

Notice Ms. Nuland never denied it. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2011 #83

Because the US plotting to kill other countries' leaders would be so very new and unlikely . . . TomClash Dec 2011 #63

It's not even 'conspiracy theory.' It's batshit nuts. nt msanthrope Dec 2011 #64

That's what they said about Mario Savio TomClash Dec 2011 #69

Jeebus. Way to dis Mario Savio. nt msanthrope Dec 2011 #74

Oh please TomClash Dec 2011 #76

Against Mario Savio? Mario Savio died because of AF. msanthrope Dec 2011 #81

It's called an analogy TomClash Dec 2011 #86

Revere? Don't think so. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #77

Read misanthrope sig line TomClash Dec 2011 #78

I understand all that. I just think he is an obscure American and not revered. That's all. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #79

Hm. The Reagan Memorial is thataway. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #87

So I am a republican because Savio is not a household name? OK, nt. hack89 Dec 2011 #90

Who said you're a Republican? Just pointing you to a "revered American." JackRiddler Dec 2011 #92

Well - being reasonably well known to a majority of Americans would be a good starting point. hack89 Dec 2011 #95

speaking of 'batshit' insane, ever see the Clooney movie: "Men who stare at Goats"? marasinghe Dec 2011 #93

As the son and nephew of breast cancer survivors... iandhr Dec 2011 #66

The only honest answer Ms. Nuland could have given... JackRiddler Dec 2011 #68

Seriously if the US wanted to assassinate these Latin American leaders fujiyama Dec 2011 #71

Exactly, if they wanted to send a "warning" they would do something like cstanleytech Dec 2011 #72

Yeah, just like Castro. EFerrari Dec 2011 #75

Yup just like Castro since he is 85 years old the odds are higher and higher something would get him cstanleytech Dec 2011 #85

I think that's probably lost on most here. dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #108

Happy New Year, dipsydoodle! EFerrari Jan 2012 #110

They did try what they thought was a 'more efficient method' sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #80

And the kicker is that each one has done quite well treestar Dec 2011 #82

Well, now I'm suspicious. DireStrike Dec 2011 #73

He's probably thinking of 'The Karen Silkwood Story.' freshwest Dec 2011 #88

Let's not overlook/underestimate aliens Islandlife Dec 2011 #100

Seems like a non-denial denial. n/t daleo Jan 2012 #105

On the basis of this topic, I'm going to buy stock in every tin foil-related company I can find. PavePusher Jan 2012 #106

I still can't believe Nuland is our State Dept. spokesperson n/t Enrique Jan 2012 #107

Perhaps regulations are to blame, as in the lack of. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #109