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In reply to the discussion: 'Dog Whisperer' Cesar Millan Under Investigation For Possible Animal Cruelty [View all]Svafa
(594 posts)19. For everyone demanding a link
to research that Millan's approach is inappropriate, here ya go:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=950CE3DF1E3EF932A0575BC0A9609C8B63
The notion of the ''alpha pack leader'' dominating all other pack members is derived from studies of captive packs of unrelated wolves and thus bears no relationship to the social structure of natural packs, according to L. David Mech, one of the world's leading wolf experts. In the wild, the alpha wolves are merely the breeding pair, and the pack is generally comprised of their juvenile offspring and pups.
''The typical wolf pack,'' Dr. Mech wrote in The Canadian Journal of Zoology in 1999, ''is a family, with the adult parents guiding the activities of a group in a division-of-labor system.'' In a natural wolf pack, ''dominance contests with other wolves are rare, if they exist at all,'' he writes.
That's a far cry from the dominance model that Mr. Millan attributes to the innate need of dogs by way of wolves.
''The typical wolf pack,'' Dr. Mech wrote in The Canadian Journal of Zoology in 1999, ''is a family, with the adult parents guiding the activities of a group in a division-of-labor system.'' In a natural wolf pack, ''dominance contests with other wolves are rare, if they exist at all,'' he writes.
That's a far cry from the dominance model that Mr. Millan attributes to the innate need of dogs by way of wolves.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1558787808001159
https://drsophiayin.com/philosophy/dominance/
http://4pawsu.com/dogpsychology.htm
My mom's Rough Collie was ruined by a trainer who used Millan's methods without regarding the fact that the breed is known to be "soft" and should never be trained with harsh methods. I detest Cesar Millan and his approach. It is outdated; veterinarians and animal behaviorists know that positive reward-based training is far more effective and that dominating a dog can make aggression issues worse--or even cause aggression in a dog that never before showed signs of it (which is what happened with my mother's dog).
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'Dog Whisperer' Cesar Millan Under Investigation For Possible Animal Cruelty [View all]
Calista241
Mar 2016
OP
I find this ridiculous. The follow up video with the dog shows that it has been completely
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#3
Same here. Stepdaughter is using his methods to train her new puppy, and they work just fine.
shrike
Mar 2016
#14
Good lord. I don't even know why I'm responding. Your concern is duly noted. My stepdaughter, better
shrike
Mar 2016
#53
Agreed. Our little ones are just the happiest dogs you can imagine. Can't think why anyone would
OregonBlue
Mar 2016
#55
There is no "alpha of a pack" in a dog's mind. How would you like to be "nudged" by someone...
targetpractice
Mar 2016
#29
the accuser carefully covers all the sounds, including Cesar's explanations of why
magical thyme
Mar 2016
#9
I agree; it's impossible to reliably "train out" an extremely high prey drive
magical thyme
Mar 2016
#21
How many dogs have you trained to exceptionally high levels of performance?
Drahthaardogs
Mar 2016
#35
Okay... With due respect, we are on different planets about this subject.
targetpractice
Mar 2016
#39