Even if Bernie steps down now, (Reply #112)

In the discussion thread: Fearing Trump, some Democrats up pressure on Sanders to exit [View all]

Response to chwaliszewski (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 10:19 AM

shireen (8,333 posts)

112. Even if Bernie steps down now,

that will simply signal that Hillary is a vulnerable candidate. Bernie staying in the race is going to strengthen her, not weaken her, if she's the nominee. because it will show that she was strong enough to prevail. And she will have Bernie's support.

I think those polls about Trump vs. Hillary are nonsense. It's too early to make calls like that. People are pissed off and are reacting emotionally by saying they're supporting Trump. As it gets closer to the general election, voters will become more serious about their choice. By then, Hillary (if she is the nominee) would have demolished Trump in the debates.

Only the stupid will vote for that toxic buffoon.

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174 replies	Author	Time	Post
Fearing Trump, some Democrats up pressure on Sanders to exit [View all]	chwaliszewski	May 2016	OP
If democracy means anything	Merryland	May 2016	#1
We won't have a any democracy if Trump gets elected	lewebley3	May 2016	#102
:-(	RiverNoord	May 2016	#111
Post removed	Post removed	May 2016	#116
I won't vote for Clinton, but I'd beg you to reconsider your alternative.	RiverNoord	May 2016	#129
Boo!	SammyWinstonJack	May 2016	#133
Sanders is an egomaniac that can't stand that he lost	Renew Deal	May 2016	#2
Post removed	Post removed	May 2016	#9
^^^ what you said!	JonLeibowitz	May 2016	#18
I see the alert police are out in full force	Mbrow	May 2016	#23
I see now I was slightly ambiguous about who I was referring to....	JonLeibowitz	May 2016	#25
sorry Jon	Mbrow	May 2016	#68
I'm not wondering at all.	jhart3333	May 2016	#70
I'm at 100% chance and haven't served since Mar. 17. Maybe what's happened is a free speech	ancianita	May 2016	#143
I got alerted for posting someone's profile stats	Ned_Devine	May 2016	#123
That is one of the most ridiculous hides I have ever seen	ybbor	May 2016	#81
absolutely ~ all in for hill, apparently!! n/t	EvieM	May 2016	#91
I agree.	Orrex	May 2016	#92
Nonsense -- when it is confirmed that Brock is paying for online trolls, one cannot be too careful.	JonLeibowitz	May 2016	#120
Wow.	RiverNoord	May 2016	#125
In 2008	angrychair	May 2016	#43
She should have dropped out too	Renew Deal	May 2016	#50
If something bad happens and Bernie is not the next one up	AgingAmerican	May 2016	#52
Might I add that if "something bad" doesn't happen	Plucketeer	May 2016	#98
Bernie is the next one up if something bad happens.	morningfog	May 2016	#56
What??	angrychair	May 2016	#58
The Party will never let Sanders hold the power.	RhettScarlett	May 2016	#171
How do you figure Bernie is not the next one up?	donnasgirl	May 2016	#69
Super Delegates will decide	Renew Deal	May 2016	#75
If that was to happen	donnasgirl	May 2016	#89
Their votes counted	Renew Deal	May 2016	#94
Then i suggest do it	donnasgirl	May 2016	#109
Hahaha.	KPN	May 2016	#138
So if Bernie drops out can his supporters nominate someone else in his place?	A Simple Game	May 2016	#166
They will come up with some reason why	RhettScarlett	May 2016	#173
If something made Clinton an unnaceptable choice for the	RiverNoord	May 2016	#95
First	angrychair	May 2016	#113
^^THIS^^	zentrum	May 2016	#87
You keep telling yourself that - whatever it takes to calm your nerves.	bjo59	May 2016	#66
You Think We're Stupid Enough To Swallow That Crap?	billhicks76	May 2016	#67
Making another donation to Bernie in your honor. Congratulations.	jhart3333	May 2016	#71
David Plouffe called it a fraud	Renew Deal	May 2016	#76
And another. Keep it up.	jhart3333	May 2016	#78
It won't make it any less of a fraud	Renew Deal	May 2016	#84
David Plouffe is a fraud.	jhart3333	May 2016	#97
How big do you think the FEC fine will be?	Renew Deal	May 2016	#99
Not as big as when the FEC weighs in on that campaign-funded Roman holiday.	SunSeeker	May 2016	#135
And he is correct. Campaign money for a trip to Rome???????????????	leftofcool	May 2016	#137
Outrageous! He could have put that money to good use...	Human101948	May 2016	#160
WAY TO GO JHART3333!!!	kadaholo	May 2016	#96
Thank you. Just trying to do my part.	jhart3333	May 2016	#104
Sanders hasn't lost. nt	freedom fighter jh	May 2016	#73
You haven't got the vaguest idea what you're talking about.	RiverNoord	May 2016	#80
Bernie's ego has been the latest talking point. eom	zalinda	May 2016	#88
And it's absurd nonsense, which is why I call it out.	RiverNoord	May 2016	#103
Go Bernie	liberal from boston	May 2016	#117
educational, informative post	NJCher	May 2016	#141
I've got a friend who literally has no ambition of any kind. (warning - became kind of a novel)	RiverNoord	May 2016	#172
Thank you, well said and so true!	All in it together	May 2016	#165
Someone is projecting	Android3.14	May 2016	#93
Hillary didn't leave the race until June in 2008	yeoman6987	May 2016	#101
Based on what?	Wibly	May 2016	#162
Sanders is the High Sparrow	RhettScarlett	May 2016	#170
Hill needs to drop out before the shoes start dropping (octopus shoes, mind you)	yourpaljoey	May 2016	#3
+1000	MissDeeds	May 2016	#32
+1000000	SammyWinstonJack	May 2016	#105
Considering Bernie has much better poll numbers against Trump.....	Fuddnik	May 2016	#4
Bernie needs to dial it back.	RealAmericanDem	May 2016	#5
And dialing it back made America forget what she had said earlier in the campaign? Things that were	merrily	May 2016	#11
As campaigns fall short they become increasingly desperate and shrill	apnu	May 2016	#65
She did not 'dial it back' she doubled down. Here is Hillary from May 2008....	Bluenorthwest	May 2016	#33
Chilling. A deeply sinister woman...	NewImproved Deal	May 2016	#55
Hey surrogate	coco77	May 2016	#72
Mr. Brock!	snort	May 2016	#168
Maybe They Should Pressure Hillary To Exit Instead	Yallow	May 2016	#6
Yup.	Shadowflash	May 2016	#29
Why is Andrea Mitchell, whose job should be simply to inform us, serving as an agent of the DNC?	merrily	May 2016	#7
Why are you surprised by this?	hueymahl	May 2016	#39
My post expressed no surprise.	merrily	May 2016	#46
"inform"?	reddread	May 2016	#41
Her bankster husband?	jwirr	May 2016	#108
You think her job is to inform us?	pengu	May 2016	#147
President Sanders should ignore it and continue. They are irrelevant. n/t	jtuck004	May 2016	#8
Democratic party leaders can STFU. I'm sick of their moaning too she's not a china	Autumn	May 2016	#10
I'm sticking with Bernie!!	Playinghardball	May 2016	#149
This message was self-deleted by its author	NRaleighLiberal	May 2016	#12
Guess what? They got behind the wrong candidiate.	TheCowsCameHome	May 2016	#13
Don'tcha do it Bernie..	4bucksagallon	May 2016	#14
He said from the beginning he was in it to the end.	yellerpup	May 2016	#15
Bernie sees this from the point of view of his supporters. We	jwirr	May 2016	#110
And this indicates that he would listen to the voters	yellerpup	May 2016	#153
Absolutely.	jwirr	May 2016	#158
I don't see that Trump is more formidable than McCain	hollowdweller	May 2016	#16
Hillary should step aside	me b zola	May 2016	#17
Bernie is gonna end up the nominee, you can just see it with trump rising in the polls and Bernie	coffeeAM	May 2016	#19
Delusional Much!	carburyme	May 2016	#156
The Democratic Party	sulphurdunn	May 2016	#20
Note that McCain clinched months before Obama in 2008	karynnj	May 2016	#21
Bernie cannot "move" me to support a Third Way hawk who will say anything at all in order to	djean111	May 2016	#28
I hope that you rethink this if you are in anything but a very blue or very red state	karynnj	May 2016	#51
Neither Trump nor Hillary would do ANYTHING about corruption.	djean111	May 2016	#62
Hillary Clinton was never my choice, but it is near certain that by June she will be the	karynnj	May 2016	#90
Then maybe you should wait until Hillary has been declared the nominee to start talking about	djean111	May 2016	#106
I voted for Bernie here in Vermont. The reason I wrote this is because of the importance of Obama's	karynnj	May 2016	#114
Boiled down, you are asking that Bernie step down now, and that his supporters	djean111	May 2016	#122
I don't think Bernie should step down until HRC gets 50% plus of the pledged delegates	karynnj	May 2016	#124
And that will be decided at the convention. By Bernie.	djean111	May 2016	#128
+1000000	SammyWinstonJack	May 2016	#136
Oh boy. They're out in force this morning.	NV Whino	May 2016	#22
If Bernie Sanders is the Democrat he says he is	liberal N proud	May 2016	#24
"some Democrats"--yeah Third Way, corporatist Democrats.	BillZBubb	May 2016	#26
Hillary has potentially been handed the least qualified..	afertal	May 2016	#27
Least qualified, how so?	SammyWinstonJack	May 2016	#115
If HRC was a strong candidate, Bernie would have lefte the race a long time ago	Larkspur	May 2016	#30
Funny,,,	Cryptoad	May 2016	#35
Yet Bernie is still in the primary race and he has still won contests	Larkspur	May 2016	#40
Yet he continues to drag down the Progressive movement by feeding his Ego!	Cryptoad	May 2016	#54
The Clintons have the biggest egos	Larkspur	May 2016	#79
Mean While,,,,,,,,	Cryptoad	May 2016	#86
I want her numbers to be a reflection of a clean primary. It's not shaping up that way, and	ancianita	May 2016	#152
Bern Lost to HIllary looks mighty clean,,,,,,,,,,	Cryptoad	May 2016	#155
This whole Bernie ego meme is lame and offensive.	Redwoods Red	May 2016	#150
almost as low as,,,	Cryptoad	May 2016	#151
Read the OP.	TheCowsCameHome	May 2016	#49
Yeah, she beats him in every one!	LiberalLovinLug	May 2016	#142
u do realize	Cryptoad	May 2016	#144
So its all the messenger's fault	LiberalLovinLug	May 2016	#164
With how much help from the Party, before any other candidate announced?	That Guy 888	May 2016	#163
The polls show that. ALL polls in general election matchups have Bernie winning by larger margins	Roland99	May 2016	#63
that is mainly bc most people dont know	Cryptoad	May 2016	#146
yeah...that's the reason	Roland99	May 2016	#157
Looks like She doing a good job without yall's help	Cryptoad	May 2016	#31
I'm a Democrat and I support Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders. Your words are offensive	Bluenorthwest	May 2016	#42
I am a Publicly elected member of the Democratic Party Exe Committee	Cryptoad	May 2016	#148
Bernie, tell the Hillbots to go pound sand.	Red Oak	May 2016	#34
The McCaskill crowd all need to be replaced by real Democrats.	floriduck	May 2016	#36
Bernie has earned the right to stay in this race. Clinton has not earned the win.	CoffeeCat	May 2016	#37
Is it because they fear Trump or is he a problem to Hillary? N/T	TxGrandpa	May 2016	#38
Never!	Harriety	May 2016	#44
If they really fear Trump, anyone with any sense would pressure Clinton to drop out.	Gene Debs	May 2016	#45
It's hard to fight for votes that	Progressive dog	May 2016	#47
Establishment fear.	Gregorian	May 2016	#48
BS can leave the race whenever he wants..	dubyadiprecession	May 2016	#53
If it's over and he has no chance, what's stopping their turn toward the GE?	bigbrother05	May 2016	#57
If they really want to beat Trump, Hillary is the one that needs to exit.	hobbit709	May 2016	#59
They should be putting the pressure on HRC-WJC, Inc. to quit.	GoneOffShore	May 2016	#60
Hillary Should Exit	billhicks76	May 2016	#61
Same old, same old.	bjo59	May 2016	#64
If Bernie loses,	Thespian2	May 2016	#74
We owe it to ourselves to	SmittynMo	May 2016	#77
Fearing Trump?	SmittynMo	May 2016	#82
We're in it to win it. That's our right, and I hope we take it all the way. This Democratic Party	highprincipleswork	May 2016	#83
Her flagging against	zentrum	May 2016	#85
Sanders is staying in the race because he cares about Americans.	PatrickforO	May 2016	#100
I do not see the connection. All that would be accomplished	jwirr	May 2016	#107
Even if Bernie steps down now,	shireen	May 2016	#112
Funny..I fear Trump winning.	Bonhomme Richard	May 2016	#118
Another month won't matter; the strength of his endorsement will	BeyondGeography	May 2016	#119
Fear Trump?? If you are afraid of Trump you	rateyes	May 2016	#121
We still get to decide the best candidate.	AllyCat	May 2016	#126
If they fear Trump, they need to nominate Bernie.	Skwmom	May 2016	#127
+1000 - As the polls show he is the better candidate by a mile vs. Trump nt	phazed0	May 2016	#131
Common sense and not living in the corrupt bubble of DC tells me he is the better candidate.	Skwmom	May 2016	#132
I see the logic, but I disagree with it.	Amimnoch	May 2016	#130
"Democratic Party Leaders" need to be replaced. Too many have sold out.	Spitfire of ATJ	May 2016	#134
Fearmongering again by the rightwing DINOs.	KPN	May 2016	#139
Yes exactly as Hillary left the race in 2008 as soon as it was obvious she	SheilaT	May 2016	#140
If they really feared Trump, they would be encouraging clinton to drop out.	onecaliberal	May 2016	#145
All I can say is we better get our shit together.............	Old Vet	May 2016	#154
The establishment Dems wants Bernie out.	notadmblnd	May 2016	#159
Idiotic argument	Wibly	May 2016	#161
If Hill can't beat Trump, that's on her. I think she's the one who should drop out!	CharlotteVale	May 2016	#167
they want the stronger candidate against Trump to drop out so they can	MisterP	May 2016	#169
I am sorry, LOCKING	etherealtruth	May 2016	#174

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