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Sand Rat Expat

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35. Again, I'm not arguing that cops are blameless.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

Every positive interaction with the police doesn't get the same traction in the news that the negative interactions do. Thus, there's no way to account for them. But if the negative interactions outweighed the positive, it stands to reason there'd be a whole lot more dead bodies in the streets.

And if they don't save lives or protect us, then we could do away with the police entirely and let the chips fall where they may, right? That's the endpoint of the argument you're making.

And I believe that most cops, like most people (and cops are people, after all...) are fundamentally decent people who try to do the best they can. We need to do better at weeding out the people who want to be cops for the wrong reasons, like the power trip and the authority fetish types.

And speaking as someone who, I daresay, knows a little better than most what cops deal with on a daily basis, that sympathy is warranted. It's not a job I could ever do.

There is a police brutality problem, yes, and it needs to be dealt with. But that doesn't change the fact that the majority of cops are decent people doing a tough job for the right reasons, and I won't be party to or stand silently by while the good ones are smeared along with the bad ones.

He must be watching FOX "News". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #1
Seriously bravenak Jul 2016 #3
Nope. Prejudice against a large group of people is not the way to fight prejudice. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #4
FOX "News" has been looping clips of anti-cop chants from what they claim is BLM. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #5
President Obama is not looping in his speech. There is blanket anti-cop rhetoric in this thread. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #7
The cops aren't innocent ya know. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #8
There "ya" go with a blanket simplistic binary thinking statement again. It does not help. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #10
Face it. The police aren't what they used to be since the show "COPS" came out. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #20
Thank you for a reasoned response. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #29
So you believe it isn't institutional? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #47
I believe in seeing the individual for what that individual is. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #49
How come those good cops aren't reporting the bad ones? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #54
Some of them may be. Do you know that they are not reporting? hamsterjill Jul 2016 #58
A racist in a uniform is more dangerous than one without a uniform. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #60
I agree. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #63
the lives lost being so much less easy to focus on than the simplicity of correcting word usage. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #57
My point is the lives lost demand thoughtful action, not knee-jerk simplistic prejudice v "cops". nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #65
The problem is puffy socks Jul 2016 #67
Yes, discussions like these do tend to cover the same ground again and again. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #68
Thanks puffy socks Jul 2016 #69
neither are all the people they deal with Skittles Jul 2016 #25
It's not their job to decide that.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #38
you're making generalizations Skittles Jul 2016 #43
Generally speaking. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #46
Trump Says The Same Thing About Undocumented Immigrants... TomCADem Jul 2016 #42
Bingo! tonyt53 Jul 2016 #51
no Skittles Jul 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Jul 2016 #28
So, We Should Generalize That All Cops Are Racist Like Trump... TomCADem Jul 2016 #40
Oh please. bravenak Jul 2016 #2
"We"? No police officer ever helped one of 'us' / 'you' (plural) (whatever group you choose)? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #6
Bingo. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #9
I agree with him. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #12
If they stop profiling us and murdering us bravenak Jul 2016 #13
I'll echo Bernardo de la Paz here. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #15
The one does not make up for the many bravenak Jul 2016 #16
I had a feeling I was wasting my keystrokes. I see now that I was correct. NT Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #17
The bad instances outweigh the good instances philosslayer Jul 2016 #21
You've no way of knowing that, now do you? Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #23
Read post #31 philosslayer Jul 2016 #36
Read my response to his/her response. Same goes. NT Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #37
Yes, you do have a way of knowing that Bradical79 Jul 2016 #59
Sorry puffy socks Jul 2016 #31
Again, I'm not arguing that cops are blameless. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #35
I believe psycopaths and white supremicists have infiltrated our depts puffy socks Jul 2016 #44
It looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #45
I have clearly made up my mind that it's institutional and not just a few bad apples. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #48
Where is the personal responsibility? loyalsister Jul 2016 #70
...!100++++ 840high Jul 2016 #27
that's why even after being asked rbrnmw Jul 2016 #30
I can't believe somebody thought it was okay to police your sigline bravenak Jul 2016 #32
right? rbrnmw Jul 2016 #33
Learn our places or else bravenak Jul 2016 #34
He's right - but he should keep in mind that Faux News can distort anything into "anti-cop." forest444 Jul 2016 #11
What's his stance on citizen review of police shootings? Ash_F Jul 2016 #14
Policy recommendations were released a year ago BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #18
That is not the same as citizen review unfortunately. Ash_F Jul 2016 #19
Yup BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #22
First puffy socks Jul 2016 #26
Silent majority GummyBearz Jul 2016 #61
Says the guy who called Cambridge police stupid. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #39
I agree with the president. romanic Jul 2016 #41
Obama is correct and if some idiots would listen to him he could help their cause. WhoWoodaKnew Jul 2016 #50
Andrew Young, another very fine American, said pretty much the same thing as Obama. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #52
It's not realistic Bradical79 Jul 2016 #56
A riot that shuts down a freeway is a little more than "a fucking sit in." NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #62
I wasn't refering to that incident Bradical79 Jul 2016 #66
All I'm saying is that if you come across as being against cops, a lot of people WhoWoodaKnew Jul 2016 #64
Well pictures of people getting killed by the cops can hurt the police. hollowdweller Jul 2016 #53
It's fucking impossible to eliminate that rhetoric Bradical79 Jul 2016 #55
... Cop(s) .... ... Hurt Black Lives.... Cal Carpenter Jul 2016 #71
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