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67. but GWB and shooter cheney got off scott free.

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Chelsea Manning Faces Possible Charges For Suicide Attempt [View all] TipTok Jul 2016 OP

Well. That should cure her suicidal tendencies. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #1

Or make her try again every day. merrily Jul 2016 #8

That's what I think, too. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #26

The beatings will continue until morale improves. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #55

This is not justice. This is vindictive... think Jul 2016 #2

If it's the rules for everyone in the military Democat Jul 2016 #4

There is such a thing as prosecutorial discretion. Has everyone in the military merrily Jul 2016 #7

This sounds more like cruel and unusual punishment. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #19

I am not smart enough to know that. But I know it sounds brutish, sadistic cruel and merrily Jul 2016 #21

It's cruel and I doubt it is customary. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #22

The way I read it ... TipTok Jul 2016 #32

It has changed 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #36

In the past British law punished people who attempted suicide with tblue37 Jul 2016 #56

I know they have that in civilian courts but do the prosecutors for the military have it as well? cstanleytech Jul 2016 #25

Yes. merrily Jul 2016 #40

They brought her up on charges for EXPIRED TOOTHPASTE!!! Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #10

UCMJ is the law for military..... beachbum bob Jul 2016 #3

Please see Reply 7. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #9

It's the job of our elected legislative people to change bad laws. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #14

That's just unnecessary, petty vindictiveness. procon Jul 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jul 2016 #11

This is prison 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #12

Your post makes me weep. You are on the wrong side of this. Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #13

No I am not 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #16

I can hear you are full of anger Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #20

No not even close 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #23

Fortunately cvoogt Jul 2016 #29

It is zero sum though 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #39

*cough* TipTok Jul 2016 #43

yup. cvoogt Jul 2016 #61

Clueless, distasteful post. For your own sake, you should consider a self delete. merrily Jul 2016 #15

What the hell does "access to the outside" have to do with healthcare! procon Jul 2016 #24

Military is guided by the UCMJ 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #34

How does Manning have more access to the outside than anyone else? NobodyHere Jul 2016 #78

Ooohhhh... the agony. Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #6

Manning earned every one of those 35 years... TipTok Jul 2016 #17

You make me weep. Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #18

Which part of the invasion of Iraq was correct? n/t xocet Jul 2016 #33

People can and have written big thick books about that topic... TipTok Jul 2016 #35

Agree 100% calguy Jul 2016 #38

"As liberal as they come" seems to be an overestimate. n/t xocet Jul 2016 #44

Yep. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #53

I was just wondering if you also thought the invasion was wrong and that you also thought that xocet Jul 2016 #41

Yup. NT Adrahil Jul 2016 #62

Manning joined the Army in 2007. Adrahil Jul 2016 #63

That is beside the point. n/t xocet Jul 2016 #66

Not if an oath means anything. Adrahil Jul 2016 #71

Your point is absolutely true in the context you intend. My point is that the entire idea of xocet Jul 2016 #75

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #42

Many thought Jackie Robinson earned his court-martial and prosecution in 1944 as well. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #48

What are you suggesting that we don't know... TipTok Jul 2016 #50

but GWB and shooter cheney got off scott free. olddad56 Jul 2016 #67

He got to steal two pieces of candy... TipTok Jul 2016 #70

I have no pity for this traitor calguy Jul 2016 #27

FYI... xocet Jul 2016 #37

I feel sick to my stomach. demmiblue Jul 2016 #28

I think "she's" playing a sympathy card calguy Jul 2016 #30

Wow... "she's". Go away. n/t demmiblue Jul 2016 #31

"She"? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #54

DU is usually pretty good at putting a stop to this sort of thing. demmiblue Jul 2016 #57

Guess not. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #58

I would delete or change Turin_C3PO Jul 2016 #69

As usual the DU militarists pile on Chelsea . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #45

The biggest difference is intent... TipTok Jul 2016 #46

Sure, Libby & Armitage were only being careless . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #47

I would not classify myself as a "militarist" calguy Jul 2016 #49

Yup, you stand with . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #52

Sorry to disappoint you calguy Jul 2016 #60

That is the military. Attempted suicide is a crime. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #51

what is the penalty for a successful attempt? olddad56 Jul 2016 #68

An tempting suicide is punishable under the USMJ. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #74

Ironic that an individual who acted against state-supported murder and PufPuf23 Jul 2016 #59

Manning's crime was reckless... but this is overkill. phleshdef Jul 2016 #64

Reckless implies negligence or some sort of casual disregard.... TipTok Jul 2016 #65

Indefinite solitary confinement? That's just torture, and should be illegal... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #72

Manning knew, more than most, the cost of the crime... TipTok Jul 2016 #73

Doesn't excuse inhumane treatment, and its her now. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #76

It was him during the commission of the crime... TipTok Jul 2016 #77