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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
9. Good
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

I hate the fucking things. Nothing more than an attempt to disappear women and in this case, probably make it easier to identify someone.

Are many terrorists wearing burka? Democat Aug 2016 #1
If I wanted to cause harm, death and destruction I would use one... snooper2 Aug 2016 #2
You "would." You're "pretty sure." JackRiddler Aug 2016 #21
you follow the news? snooper2 Aug 2016 #28
What does this have to do with Germany? JackRiddler Aug 2016 #37
jeez snooper2 Aug 2016 #40
Dodge. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #41
Actual Terrorist snooper2 Aug 2016 #44
Something like 1000 times more "actual terrorists" dress like this: JackRiddler Aug 2016 #58
I'd be ok with banning burkas christx30 Aug 2016 #60
You also would not know if the fat guy in shorts... JackRiddler Aug 2016 #64
My tit for tat about Saudi Arabia was that christx30 Aug 2016 #66
Because our laws and customs... JackRiddler Aug 2016 #67
I agree with most of what you are saying, except, Dubai is surprisingly modern, I hear. Quantess Aug 2016 #89
Agreed. Enforced dress codes in the West are valid reciprocity for codes enforced anywhere else. ancianita Aug 2016 #122
+1 uhnope Aug 2016 #91
Probably more to do with evading surveillance MowCowWhoHow III Aug 2016 #4
I saw something recently PatSeg Aug 2016 #13
You saw something! JackRiddler Aug 2016 #20
Yep, right on the street where I live!!! PatSeg Aug 2016 #34
Wrong focus, with a culture war twist. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #38
Sounds like that would be an "anti terrorism" concern PatSeg Aug 2016 #42
Oh dear, how will they disguise themselves when burqas are banned? JackRiddler Aug 2016 #53
I am only pointing out PatSeg Aug 2016 #73
It might be very easy to enforce. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #79
The way you describe it, PatSeg Aug 2016 #80
It's enforced in France. They're arrested, charged, released. riderinthestorm Aug 2016 #83
Really? PatSeg Aug 2016 #84
In France, the women only wear the niqab - no burqas - (not much difference) womanofthehills Aug 2016 #130
None in recent attacks called "terrorist." JackRiddler Aug 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author MowCowWhoHow III Aug 2016 #3
The problem isn't the burqua. It's radicalization in the face of a psycholigical crisis: DetlefK Aug 2016 #5
I think this thread is not about a burqua as a factor in radicalization. pennylane100 Aug 2016 #24
Now that's a rational contribution. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #65
The burqa has nothing to do with the Islamic religion. It isn't required by the religion. Squinch Aug 2016 #6
Yup. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2016 #12
Agreed. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #22
yep, NEVER been used..ever! snooper2 Aug 2016 #29
Not the point. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #36
That particular cultural characteristic, the burqa, has no role in civilized society. Squinch Aug 2016 #32
100% agreement leftynyc Aug 2016 #49
i suspect you have a good point patsimp Aug 2016 #86
+1. Personally I think head scarves/hijabs are cool but anything more is creepy. n/t uhnope Aug 2016 #92
I don't know anyone who feels as I do about burqas who has any problem with scarves/hijabs. Squinch Aug 2016 #114
Wrong. It is religiously based. The dress code is not consistant among all Islam. The same way a Akicita Aug 2016 #43
It is not required by Islam. It just isn't. Squinch Aug 2016 #50
Male priests are not required in most of Christianity. In Catholicism it is required. Akicita Aug 2016 #52
The burka is a regional tradition. It isn't part of the religion. Squinch Aug 2016 #57
If you go to those countries and ask people why they are required to wear burqas the answer will not Akicita Aug 2016 #59
Are you sure you mean the face-covering burqa, and not the hair-covering niqab? Quantess Aug 2016 #90
Niqab's do cover the face leftynyc Aug 2016 #95
Oh, my mistake. Anyway, are you sure they mean the face coverings Quantess Aug 2016 #97
If you talk to some white supremacists, and you ask them why they hate people of Squinch Aug 2016 #119
Agreed - all Islam says is modesty womanofthehills Aug 2016 #131
It's not "secular" Xithras Aug 2016 #61
"Cultural interpretation". Exactly. The burka is cultural, not religious Arazi Aug 2016 #68
It is mandated that women "cover their beauty" Xithras Aug 2016 #70
Cultural, not religious riderinthestorm Aug 2016 #74
Requirements for the burqa are based on religious texts Bradical79 Aug 2016 #113
As I said upthread, many white supremacist groups use something called Squinch Aug 2016 #121
Yes, religion and culture are largely entertwined Bradical79 Aug 2016 #123
But you can distinguish it from culture. Just as we can, do and should distinguish the white Squinch Aug 2016 #127
Yes, I agree with you on that. Bradical79 Aug 2016 #133
If I was a small man, I'd wear a burka to help hide Ilsa Aug 2016 #7
"But there is no reason to ban hijabs." NurseJackie Aug 2016 #8
Baggy pants would do as well and raise no suspicion. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #23
Baggy pants don't also cover the face. KittyWampus Aug 2016 #46
No, but if it's my grand-pops they come pretty darned close. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #148
I think the perceived woman in the burka Ilsa Aug 2016 #62
Good leftynyc Aug 2016 #9
I hate the fucking things. AlbertCat Aug 2016 #10
Force is the issue leftynyc Aug 2016 #11
As a woman, PatSeg Aug 2016 #15
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! get the red out Aug 2016 #30
There is something insidious PatSeg Aug 2016 #35
100% agreement leftynyc Aug 2016 #48
Absolutely! PatSeg Aug 2016 #51
exactly. Especially since that's a BS excuse anyway. uhnope Aug 2016 #94
That's a really good point PatSeg Aug 2016 #110
Bravo. Good post. Akicita Aug 2016 #55
Thank you! PatSeg Aug 2016 #75
Amen! get the red out Aug 2016 #63
Agreed - it's so oppressive womanofthehills Aug 2016 #134
Oh god, that picture PatSeg Aug 2016 #135
But would you ban a woman who likes them from wearing one? Akicita Aug 2016 #54
Yes, leftynyc Aug 2016 #71
I would worry that an overbearing PatSeg Aug 2016 #78
That is DEFINITELY a threat leftynyc Aug 2016 #88
Which makes it obvious PatSeg Aug 2016 #107
Most religious edicts, leftynyc Aug 2016 #109
And the whole concept of "honor killing" too PatSeg Aug 2016 #111
Oy - that's another topic leftynyc Aug 2016 #112
I know PatSeg Aug 2016 #115
I've known several also leftynyc Aug 2016 #117
Same here PatSeg Aug 2016 #125
I think it's different in the US leftynyc Aug 2016 #128
You know PatSeg Aug 2016 #129
That's not really surprising if leftynyc Aug 2016 #136
I find it hard to believe too. But you never know. People are willing to put up with a lot of Akicita Aug 2016 #82
With the women, PatSeg Aug 2016 #126
No PatSeg Aug 2016 #76
I've seen women in burkas accompanied by men in shorts and tshirts that uhnope Aug 2016 #93
Yes PatSeg Aug 2016 #108
The Codpiece - don't forget the codpiece packman Aug 2016 #14
The Codpiece - don't forget the codpiece AlbertCat Aug 2016 #16
Right there with you eissa Aug 2016 #17
Maybe. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #25
Making women disappear from public view seems to be part of many sects of many religions. pennylane100 Aug 2016 #26
I remember a story about leftynyc Aug 2016 #31
One should also note the difference in the responses to those events. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #45
Oh I noticed it at the time leftynyc Aug 2016 #47
When a man asks that a woman be moved away from him on an airplane, the woman is able to say Squinch Aug 2016 #33
Or worse yet, they are forced to undergo FGM. Akicita Aug 2016 #56
Good. Owl Aug 2016 #18
Good! apcalc Aug 2016 #27
"Just because I'm paranoid - vkkv Aug 2016 #39
Well, that will help Recursion Aug 2016 #69
Good. romanic Aug 2016 #72
true patsimp Aug 2016 #85
Perhaps a yellow crescent to identify Muslims? guillaumeb Aug 2016 #77
How on Earth is this comparable? ButterflyBlood Aug 2016 #87
The yellow Star of David was used to single out the Jews, guillaumeb Aug 2016 #99
The BURQA leftynyc Aug 2016 #96
Identifying Muslims as uniquely problematic is nonsense. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #100
WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Aug 2016 #103
Oh yes, the ID problem for security reasons. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #104
Large hats, wigs leftynyc Aug 2016 #106
Three questions posed. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #138
And once again leftynyc Aug 2016 #140
Is tolerance for difference a Western value? guillaumeb Aug 2016 #141
I don't need to filter leftynyc Aug 2016 #143
So make the Muslims dress christx30 Aug 2016 #105
Forced behavior? An interesting argument from a Democrat. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #139
Would you be ok with an honor killing christx30 Aug 2016 #142
Ban burkas? Yes. Hijabs? No. roamer65 Aug 2016 #81
Germany has the right to defend herself. Live in Germany? Follow the rules. Simple. GOLGO 13 Aug 2016 #98
What about nuns? trixie Aug 2016 #101
Most nuns at least have their face showing. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #116
Few nuns wear habits anymore. And when they did, for at least the last century, it was generally Squinch Aug 2016 #120
Racism masquerading as security. bananakabob Aug 2016 #102
Is it racism to prohibit all races from wearing burkas? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #118
I don't see people banning baseball caps bananakabob Aug 2016 #150
A baseball cap doesn't usually cover your whole face. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #151
Where do you draw the line in accepting christx30 Aug 2016 #124
Protecting regressive culture is the new progressive trend romanic Aug 2016 #144
Oh no it's not leftynyc Aug 2016 #145
That's why I asked that question: christx30 Aug 2016 #146
Islam is a religion, not a race. EX500rider Aug 2016 #147
Same line right wingers use. bananakabob Aug 2016 #149
They may also say the sun rises in the East....so what? EX500rider Aug 2016 #152
good, it is the clothing of a slave... who cares the rationale.. BAN that shit Grey Lemercier Aug 2016 #132
Good! It is oppression of women, pure and simple. Coventina Aug 2016 #137
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