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Rural_Progressive

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 02:50 PM Mar 2017

Massive Permafrost Thaw Documented in Canada, Portends Huge Carbon Release [View all]

Source: Inside Climate News

I realize many of us are still intellectually and emotionally dealing with the masses of fecal material the orange one flung around last night but I suspect that in the very near future we will have far larger issues to occupy our minds and bodies. Here's what I'm talking about.

"Huge slabs of Arctic permafrost in northwest Canada are slumping and disintegrating, sending large amounts of carbon-rich mud and silt into streams and rivers. A new study that analyzed nearly a half-million square miles in northwest Canada found that this permafrost decay is affecting 52,000 square miles of that vast stretch of earth—an expanse the size of Alabama."

Large sections of the Siberian permafrost are thawing and slumping (from the Cambridge University Press): "A megaslump at Batagaika, in northern Yakutia, exposes a remarkable stratigraphic sequence of permafrost deposits ~50–80 m thick."

Arctic ice coverage is at a historical low http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ and huge chunks of Antarctic glaciers are calving https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/02/07/science/earth/antarctic-crack.html .

What we are dealing with is exponential climate change. The concept of exponential change on a global scale is about as hard for the average person to conceptualize as what a billion dollars would look like in $100 bills (visualize 10 pallets each holding a ton of $100 dollar bills).

When I was a TA at university this is the image I used to help students understand exponential change:

"Imagine a tree full of leaves by a pond. On the first day the tree drops one leaf on the pond surface. The next day 2 leaves fall, the following day 4, and so on. Each day twice as many leaves fall on the pond as the day before. If on the 29th day half the leaves have fallen and the pond is half covered how many more days will it take until all the leaves have fallen and the pond is completely covered"

Some of you will immediately know but I suspect others will be surprised by the answer. Here's hint, I suspect that as far as the world goes we are very near day 29.

Houston we have a problem.


Read more: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27022017/global-warming-permafrost-study-melt-canada-siberia

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republicans are way too busy destroying the EPA, etc. to give a shit about the planet Achilleaze Mar 2017 #1
Looks like the next step toward climate instability NCjack Mar 2017 #2
This is a HUGE step toward climate instability Rural_Progressive Mar 2017 #6
I would like to toughen the tone of my statement. This news is the worst NCjack Mar 2017 #10
There's no evidence of what you suggest happening NickB79 Mar 2017 #13
Short of nuclear war, this is the worst news imaginable. femmedem Mar 2017 #3
Time to shade the poles with upper atmosphere particulates, etc. theophilus Mar 2017 #4
"shade the poles with upper atmosphere particulates" Duppers Mar 2017 #18
and the deniers will all claim this event is all natural and man is not involved dembotoz Mar 2017 #5
On day 24, only 1/64 (1.6%) of the pond is covered. But in just 6 more days.... (eom) progree Mar 2017 #7
Seems to be something the human brain is just not capable of dealing with Rural_Progressive Mar 2017 #9
Yeah, when I first heard the pond example a few years ago, it blew me away progree Mar 2017 #11
Oh, here is what I saw - "Plan B: Has Our Planet Already Reached the 29th Day?" progree Mar 2017 #15
Good thing climate change is just a hoax, then Orrex Mar 2017 #8
They don't care, they figure they'll be dead by the time it gets "really bad" Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #12
This has happened for many, many years its why permafrost areas look like swiss cheese. Sunlei Mar 2017 #14
So now we know pressbox69 Mar 2017 #16
Just wait until we reach 500 ppm CO2. roamer65 Mar 2017 #17
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