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16. The Party Of Lincoln
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 06:06 PM
Apr 2017

As my wife and I crossed the parking lot to enter the market, I noticed a Confederate flag proudly displayed in the back window of a parked truck. Had I been given a casual opportunity, I would have liked to ask the owner if he or she was a strong Democratic voter. "Heck no! I always vote Republican!" would have been the expected answer.

My question brings the answer to a fact of history that is rarely discussed. Yes, Republicans freed the slaves. Yes, Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents. But Republicans at the time of the Civil War were the big-government, liberal party and they believed that all men were truly created equal.

In 1860, the 'new' Republican Party platform of Lincoln was for a powerful central government that was against slavery. They were for free farmland for non-slave holding western settlers, for freedom of immigration into the United States and rights to all immigrants, for building the transcontinental railroad and regulating national banks -very much a left-of-moderate party platform. The Democratic Party platform was the hard-line states' rights, pro-slavery, admittedly white-supremest as proclaimed in the Confederacy's "Cornerstone Speech" manifesto, conservative party. Many things fractured the politics of 1860. Among those were the promotion of a gold standard, the Free Soilers, and pro & anti-slavery Whigs that forced a split that dissolved the long-established Whig Party. As a result, though considered a long-shot, Lincoln's 'new' Republican Party won the election.

When we celebrate President Lincoln as one of the United States' greatest presidents with holidays and dinners we must understand the accurate accounting of history, that ideological platforms switched during the terms of the majority and consecutive Republican presidents that followed the Lincoln-Johnson terms. The long list of Republican presidents that followed Lincoln and V.P. Andrew Johnson ended with conservative Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression, caused in large part by unregulated banking, then worsened by the Hoover administration's fear that introducing any level of socialism was unacceptable -those continue as modern Republican talking points.

Democratic nominee Franklin D. Roosevelt's election win was the final indicator that both party's previous platforms had fully flipped and the economy was boosted into what is one of the great successes in our history. The New Deal followed by the G.I. Bill were two prominent progressive economic triggers that sustained a fruitful U.S. economy.

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." -Franklin D. Roosevelt. That approach surely seems to have worked very well for the economy. It is perhaps another part of history that we should examine more closely regarding corporate subsidies, the cap on the Payroll Tax and the lowered tax rates for the wealthiest vs. quality public health and affordable college education for all Americans.

It should be noted that some conservative "DixieCrats" remained in office well into the 20th century, but that the Confederate flag today is flown by Republican and/or Tea Party supporters almost exclusively. It is no longer flown by Democrats. In fact, we have seen modern-day Democrats file lawsuits to have the Confederate flag removed from government buildings. This is one of many, more than obvious signs of how the two rival party's platforms have flipped since Abraham Lincoln, one of our greatest, if not the greatest of all U.S. presidents.
OK, north carolina, you're dismissed! elleng Apr 2017 #1
What the eff is wrong with all these NC Republiscums? machoneman Apr 2017 #25
No different than rethugs everywhere paleotn Apr 2017 #36
Well, the Emancipation Proclamation was government by fiat Warpy Apr 2017 #2
The South might have even got away with Succession... Xolodno Apr 2017 #91
Se-cess-ion. Se-cede. Hekate Apr 2017 #93
The Missouri Compromise was more of a way to contain it Warpy Apr 2017 #94
Finally! Drop all out that phony "party of Lincoln" crap and get real, GOP! deurbano Apr 2017 #3
Lol. My first thought. But if they drop the party of Lincoln crap, Hortensis Apr 2017 #29
The one President that is truly representative of the GOP is Gerald Ford. Virtual Burlesque Apr 2017 #45
Lol. But Ford was practically a liberal compared Hortensis Apr 2017 #56
Dixie politicians never claimed the Party of Lincoln Warpy Apr 2017 #52
The party......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2017 #76
The parties have pretty much reversed order since then. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #61
state idiot Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #4
Trump! Please recall that Naval Armada from Korea and ... PsychoBabble Apr 2017 #5
did this guy time warp here from 1862 ? steve2470 Apr 2017 #6
Too bad we can't send him back. Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #11
yes too bad! nt steve2470 Apr 2017 #12
Fucker needs a good "canin" NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #96
Check his closet for a white hood. n/t radicalliberal Apr 2017 #19
OMFG. William769 Apr 2017 #7
I applaud his courage for saying what his party believes but is too cowardly to admit in public. LonePirate Apr 2017 #8
Nope, I doubt it. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #60
omigawd. barbtries Apr 2017 #9
Expect more comments like this in the future from these Pope/Koch extremists. bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #14
i'm lucky to be in Durham barbtries Apr 2017 #20
Durham/Chapel Hill are two places in NC that have kept the NC Dems afloat. bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #23
well, this should cheer you up barbtries Apr 2017 #28
Well, I'm glad you volunteered bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #33
i'm hoping against hope barbtries Apr 2017 #37
I agree bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #42
still thoroughly unrepentent FraDon Apr 2017 #10
Imagine that! A North Caroline Republican state legislator calls Lincoln, the founder ... radicalliberal Apr 2017 #13
Let the South secede! PLEASE !!! vkkv Apr 2017 #15
Pittman just introduced a bill for NC's secession of the United States- For Real- Not a joke. lol bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #17
the same guy? barbtries Apr 2017 #21
Here's the story. lol bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #26
okay, this i can believe barbtries Apr 2017 #32
Next Pittman proposal: "Let's round them all up and put them back in the plantations" dalton99a Apr 2017 #69
Would any such law be ruled unconstitutional under Texas v. White? clementine613 Apr 2017 #92
Fucking Rebel traitors NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #40
Lee and Davis were indicted for treason Yupster Apr 2017 #66
No trial should have been given NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #82
Kill ppeople and coniscate their wealth Yupster Apr 2017 #83
Not for fucking traitors! NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #84
I actually think free and fair titles to their properties should have been transferred to the newly- KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #85
I could go with that too King. NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #95
You might feel differently if some day Yupster Apr 2017 #97
Confederate Apologist? NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #98
Just an old history teacher and textbook author Yupster Apr 2017 #99
great when his bill fails bluestarone Apr 2017 #41
THEN build a wall -- around IT! FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #43
The Party Of Lincoln vkkv Apr 2017 #16
Historian bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #18
DiLorenzo is an economist with no advance degree in history grantcart Apr 2017 #34
The link is a review of this book bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #39
Bewildering grantcart Apr 2017 #51
Thanks for the correction bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #54
No problem I understand grantcart Apr 2017 #55
Lincoln must have fooled no less than Karl Marx, whose Workingman's KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #86
Listen, dude, I'm all about studying Civil War history. It's fascinating stuff. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #63
Traitors gotta trait. nt TeamPooka Apr 2017 #24
Lol. Win. ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #73
But he's a republican, and they all like to boast they're "the party of Lincoln". George II Apr 2017 #27
Pittman needs a semester of remedial history. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #30
Correct! BigOleDummy Apr 2017 #58
South fired first shots at Fort Sumpter, but Yupster Apr 2017 #67
Well, some of us iconoclasts think a little figure name of John Brown KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #87
Was Brown an official representative of a state, guillaumeb Apr 2017 #89
LOL Touche! Brown may not have been an "official KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #90
I guess he didn't hear donald announce that Lincoln was Republican. Ilsa Apr 2017 #31
Putting down a rebellion is unconstitutional? Really? krispos42 Apr 2017 #35
LOLOL. Pretty good! - nt KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #88
standard conservative revisionist history.... Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #38
Absalom , Absalom -150 yrs later nocalflea Apr 2017 #44
Woefully ignorant of history, sarisataka Apr 2017 #46
That was the problem Yupster Apr 2017 #68
It's so embarrassing to be from NC. n/t neeksgeek Apr 2017 #47
That's the rule. Turbineguy Apr 2017 #48
Can we vote NC off the island?. world wide wally Apr 2017 #49
According to Ballotpedia, this fool is a Presbyterian Pastor elected in 2012 irisblue Apr 2017 #50
He's insane. littlemissmartypants Apr 2017 #53
We need more active Dems and progressives in red counties. (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #57
No. The SOUTH started the war, both in trying to secede and in firing the first shots. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #59
Official republican position - Lincoln was our nation's greatest leader keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #62
Republicans like Hitler keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #64
Yeah, they like Hitler, until it's time to attack the Dems. Then Hitler was horrible, and the Dems Mc Mike Apr 2017 #74
Herr Drumpf's a great aficionado of Herr dummkopf.... Historic NY Apr 2017 #77
Someone named him Hair Twitler keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Apr 2017 #65
hitler again? Twice in a 24 hour news cycle repukes are making hitler comparisons? truthisfreedom Apr 2017 #70
Which are firmly lodged up their own keisters. Extra echo-y. Nt Mc Mike Apr 2017 #72
Yes, Virginia, there are so-called adults who are still fighting the Civil War. n/t MrModerate Apr 2017 #71
They never will stop crying about the Civil War mreilly Apr 2017 #75
Just stepped on a major Third Rail of US politics. Nitram Apr 2017 #79
Shocking, even considering the source. MBS Apr 2017 #80
Right. Lincoln, like Hitler, didn't use Sarin gas. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2017 #81
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