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OnDoutside

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41. If they said no after a second referendum, then that would be it,
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 03:10 AM
Apr 2017

however, I've heard a number of EU officials say that there is no onus on the UK to actually walk away, even though they have triggered Article 50. May had said she wants negotiations complete in 2 years, yet others have suggested it could take double that. Article 50 is quite vague thankfully !

Edit : Just to clarify, whether the British get a good deal or not, what I'm saying is that they do not have to come all the way out of the EU, and reapply to join. From what I've heard, the UK government could simply say, we've decided not to go. However, it would be political suicide for them to do that, without having some reason for going back to the People and saying is this crappy deal really want you want ?

Such decisions should never be put to referendum. JHan Apr 2017 #1
Disagree, but if ever was case needing Do-Over, this is it. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #5
From what I read, the younger people were mostly for Remain, the older mostly for Leave (nm) progree Apr 2017 #14
Yes, but enough younger people & some older people really regret their Leave vote. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #17
No doubt, and they will regret it even more with the passage of time (nm) progree Apr 2017 #18
Yep. JHan Apr 2017 #24
You're right about globalization and the whipped up aversion to it however there were real issues.. JHan Apr 2017 #20
Yup you put the finger on a number of issues Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #25
"countries like Greece and Spain could spend into a hole in the ground..." Ghost Dog Apr 2017 #35
Your version has a lot of truth in it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #37
Damned right. n/t Ghost Dog Apr 2017 #40
There are TWO kinds of globalization Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #28
Globalization is reality. Denzil_DC Apr 2017 #43
thoughtful post, thanks for that. JHan Apr 2017 #46
You said it. It's why people elect others to run the country in a Democracy. randome Apr 2017 #6
No, there isn't any problem with asking for a referendum but for major issues something like that cstanleytech Apr 2017 #11
At the least, it should be 50% of ELIGIBLE VOTERS.... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #21
The problem with that is that you can simply flip the question because all referenda are gonna fail. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #26
that's slightly better but I don't think it will improve things..I try to answer it here: JHan Apr 2017 #22
The problem is that there's no other way under the UK constitution to approach this, Denzil_DC Apr 2017 #44
I have tons of respect for Sturgeon, JHan Apr 2017 #45
+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #15
Conservatism is itself an Act of Self-Harm maxsolomon Apr 2017 #2
+10000 byronius Apr 2017 #13
Then somebody in government needs to have the guts to pipe up and say this clearly. Denzil_DC Apr 2017 #3
With every painful action or act, the smarmy, smirking face of Nigel Farage... Raster Apr 2017 #4
They need to out Farage as a Russian asset tikka Apr 2017 #8
Thanks. Some here really don't want to look at the Russian connection to Calexit, either... Hekate Apr 2017 #16
Nobody wants the Brexit. Even the people who voted Yes in the referendum have changed their minds. DetlefK Apr 2017 #7
Putin wants Brexit. Putin wants to diminish any European unions or relationships... Raster Apr 2017 #10
It is amazing this politics of destruction. Large groups of voters bronxiteforever Apr 2017 #9
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #12
Care to rephrase that, pansypoo? "Idiot baby boomers"? That's the cause of all your troubles? Hekate Apr 2017 #19
Future headline: "Rethugs realises installing tRump was an act of great self-harm, bigly." nt kydo Apr 2017 #23
The fact they're going thought this with effectively no opposition party doesn't help Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #27
I still remain hopeful that the UK government will go back to the people OnDoutside Apr 2017 #30
The problem is, if the people say "no"... regnaD kciN Apr 2017 #33
If they said no after a second referendum, then that would be it, OnDoutside Apr 2017 #41
There's no way John Callinan would have accidentally OnDoutside Apr 2017 #29
The EU might not even exist in a few years. LittleBlue Apr 2017 #31
They should have realized it before invoking Article 50... regnaD kciN Apr 2017 #32
A little late. That train has left the station. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #34
If the unelected leaders of the British Government continue Ghost Dog Apr 2017 #36
Cameron was reckless. JHan Apr 2017 #38
Yes. He was selfishly-motivated in the context of the internal politics of his party, Ghost Dog Apr 2017 #39
I feel their pain ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2017 #42
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