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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #16)

Sat May 20, 2017, 04:37 PM

18. Thanks for clarifying

I still would still say your assessment that they are one and the same is a bit warped.
What I gather you mean is that they are 'one and the same' only so far as their levels of puritanism, both so beholden to their own particular set of demands and will not budge from them that it is detrimental to gaining any traction both for power or for followers.

But your definition of 'far left' is odd. Sarandon agrees with everything Sanders had proposed, and you just told me that to consider Sanders as 'far left' is laughable. So that makes no logical sense. And Stein was willing to vacate her position in order for Bernie to run in her place as head of the Green party, so if she had no problems with Sanders either, I fail to see how her positions are so radically 'far left' either. Mostly they share Bernie's and Warren's and others belief that we must get corporate money, and dark foreign money, out of politics. And fight for benefits that every other capitalist based, democratic country has for their citizens. Things like universal healthcare, maternity leave, etc..Not really communists in my books.

How I perceive the difference is that their supporters believe in almost all the same issues as Democrat voters, but that even the Democrats are too enmeshed within a corrupt system and too ensconced with their own corporate partners to get any real progress done. That they have given up on the good cop/bad cop Dems/Reps, both mostly working for the same 1% in their eyes, and they have been frustrated to the point of abandoning the idea of trying to change the system from within the Democratic party.

It has nothing to do with being too far left.

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