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struggle4progress

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62. It's not my task to decide whether the Swedish investigation would lead to prosecution, or
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 05:32 PM
Aug 2012

(if the investigation led to prosecution) whether Assange would win or lose the case

The fact is that the Swedish authorities began proceedings against him and that he fled the country while the authorities were negotiating with his lawyer to schedule an interview

He had come to Sweden, where some of his servers were located, in the hopes of moving there, and had even submitted a residency application

But when his sexual activities resulted in women asking the authorities whether there would be any way to force him to get an AIDS test for nonconsensual (because unprotected) sex, he skipped over to England and initially confessed charmingly to his own sexual chauvinism and complained of Sweden's "revolutionary feminists"

His story changed with time: eventually it became a dark tale of Sweden's medieval dungeons, Sweden's thralldom to American overlords, the likelihood that extradition to Sweden was a mere cover for extradition to the US, and the intent of the CIA to hustle him into Guantanamo for torture or execution

None of these claims comports with the facts, and in fact he argued none of the claims in the UK courts, because he would have been laughed to scorn if he had. The Swedish courts are as well-insulated from political interference as any Western courts, the barriers being built into the Swedish constitution. Groundless prosecution is a crime in Sweden, and the victims of crimes in Sweden have some rights towards the prosecution of their own cases. The European treaties governing successive extraditions would require the UK to sign off on an extradition from Sweden to the US, and Assange in that case would have recourse to courts in both Sweden and the UK appealing it, so that sending Assange to the US from Sweden would be even harder than simply sending him to the US from the UK -- in addition to which we should add, that the UK was much more closely connected to the Bush-era rendition program and "war on terror" than Sweden ever was

By skipping bail and fleeing to the embassy, Assange also distracted attention from the fact that he had failed to file any appeal of the UK court decision with the European court in Strasbourg. Why did he skip that appeal? The natural guess is that he really had nothing to offer there

I must find that violin of mine...n/t monmouth Jul 2012 #1
Ugly, ill-informed, and unnecessary. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #2
Here are some nice links for you: struggle4progress Jul 2012 #7
If all of these articles are to be believed, Julian isn't in such a terribly good position. truthisfreedom Jul 2012 #10
Well, she didn't post any of the articles that counter those articles. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #17
Why haven't you posted them? Because until Assange submits to interrogation pnwmom Jul 2012 #29
I have. A billion fucking times. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #51
Without Assange's own testimony, we'll never get to the facts. pnwmom Jul 2012 #52
Dunno. The Swedish matter is still at the investigation stage, and I have no idea struggle4progress Jul 2012 #18
But....you have seemed to have some problem with him for awhile now. KoKo Jul 2012 #19
I have little tolerance for bullshit, and Wikileaks supporters have shoveled bullshit struggle4progress Jul 2012 #33
So you blame WikiLeaks and Assange for not Providing a Narrative? KoKo Jul 2012 #34
Inside WikiLeaks’ Leak Factory struggle4progress Jul 2012 #38
Thanks,. This is very informative. Needless to say, most articles here are very pro Wiki/Assange, Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #59
WTF????????????????????? greiner3 Jul 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #13
Aren't you brilliant now...LOL. monmouth Jul 2012 #15
almost as brilliant as that violin line! frylock Jul 2012 #26
+1 Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #58
Why can't he simply hide in the back of a laundry truck to escape? 99th_Monkey Jul 2012 #3
Poor Julian, living without a gym....nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #5
Gym? It's about things like not being able to go out for walks starroute Jul 2012 #6
TFB. nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #9
What's your problem with Assange. Can you post about it? KoKo Jul 2012 #22
He can probably get more exercise in a Swedish jail while he awaits his trial. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #30
oh fucking please cali Jul 2012 #43
There are other factors, you know starroute Jul 2012 #48
It's not about being commended- cali Jul 2012 #54
Gym? Sure doesn't sound like it -- it's a six-room apartment starroute Jul 2012 #55
Boo hoo hoo Zorro Jul 2012 #8
What is happening to DU? What snarky remarks about a man who is a universal hero. rainy Jul 2012 #11
Daniel Domscheit-Berg And WikiLeaks' Insecure Future struggle4progress Jul 2012 #14
Domscheit-Berg is not to be taken seriously at all. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #16
Do you realize you're replying to a post in which I wasn't replying to you struggle4progress Jul 2012 #20
How is releasing Diplomatic Cables and allowing MSM to decide to release them KoKo Jul 2012 #24
And then he made all the cables freely available. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #32
start your own private fucking message board.. frylock Jul 2012 #25
'... WikiLeaks has also infuriated the author, Michela Wrong, who was horrified to discover struggle4progress Jul 2012 #42
I was replying to your other post to me, as well, all in one post. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #49
I was replying to your other post to me, as well, all in one post. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #50
He risked the lives of American allies to make a name for himself. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #31
But "SFP" says there was nothing new there in Cable Leaks KoKo Jul 2012 #36
If the US government were to provide the info you're demanding, that would put more lives -- pnwmom Jul 2012 #41
Looks like some who make the remarks seem to have small number of posts. glinda Jul 2012 #35
Oh! Nasty. And nasty again. Especially considering that the person you are replying to 1monster Jul 2012 #53
Am honored you looked at my information. Unfortunately you misinterpreted what I had said. glinda Jul 2012 #57
I don't believe in Universal heroes. I think people are complicated cali Jul 2012 #44
Whatever happened to the good old days when liberals disappeared in the jungle Coyotl Jul 2012 #12
Assange has done Terrific Interviews with Emerging World Leaders KoKo Jul 2012 #21
When I was basically a shut in I gained 50 lbs and had angina attacks daily. joshcryer Jul 2012 #23
No...it's not good for anyone to live that way.... KoKo Jul 2012 #27
Setec Astronomy Trillo Jul 2012 #28
Well looks like if they cannot confine him to a cell they try to do it by house arrest, confinement glinda Jul 2012 #37
It must suck to live in a mansion. boppers Jul 2012 #39
If you are pretty much confined anywhere it might be a bit stressful. Just sayin'. glinda Jul 2012 #56
I think everyone is missing the big picture. This is the latest tactic of the G8/10 countries, Monk06 Jul 2012 #40
!!! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #61
Che Guevara he is not... n/t Moltisanti Jul 2012 #45
Read Ray McGovern for SAAII (Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence). proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #46
Guardian UK: 'Prominent Americans urge Ecuador to accept Julian Assange's asylum request.' proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #47
I think your commentary is a bit simplistic Marrah_G Aug 2012 #60
It's not my task to decide whether the Swedish investigation would lead to prosecution, or struggle4progress Aug 2012 #62
OMG, this is a hard one. Petition 'created by Daniel Ellsberg' to President Obama. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #63
The nomination of Manning for a Nobel Peace Prize is hilarious! the Nobel bequest states struggle4progress Aug 2012 #64
Please provide a link... ljm2002 Aug 2012 #65
... Mr Assange regards himself as a victim of radicalism. "Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism," struggle4progress Aug 2012 #66
I think I am starting to get your motivations Ash_F Aug 2012 #67
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