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not fooled

(5,799 posts)
21. Decades of
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:35 PM
Aug 2017

weakening unions and emboldening the capitalists helped create the climate in which this corruption occurred.

As part of that sorry history, unions have been collaborating with management, via overt corruption or not, for a long time. And, often the unions have had no legitimate option, so I'm not just dumping on them here. When jobs become fungible commodities that can readily be shipped overseas, the unions feel that they have to settle for less or have their jobs face elimination.

The end result of decades of destroying the union movement in the U.S. And propagandizing the populace so effectively that many if not most 'Muricans believe they are better off without unions. As their wages and benefits decline. The real root problem is a capitalist economic system that controls the policies of this nation and can automate or move the jobs overseas--the ultimate negotiating position. See: lectures of Dr. Richard Wolff.



Like everything else, the unions need new blood in the key positions. Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #1
It is the Fiat way sandensea Aug 2017 #2
Somewhere, cloudbase Aug 2017 #3
Michman, you've posted stories about union corruption and other Hortensis Aug 2017 #4
Should stories about union corruption be ignored? former9thward Aug 2017 #5
Should stories about union successes and support be ignored? Hortensis Aug 2017 #6
Who is stopping you from posting those stories? former9thward Aug 2017 #7
"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor." Hortensis Aug 2017 #9
About your comment concerning manufacturing. former9thward Aug 2017 #8
Clever move, wasn't it? A modest middle class wage for Hortensis Aug 2017 #10
Again, those are service sector and retail jobs. former9thward Aug 2017 #13
You have to be kidding. The issue is value contributed by labor. Hortensis Aug 2017 #14
Living in the Detroit area, this has been a major news story for a few weeks MichMan Aug 2017 #11
Okay. Hortensis Aug 2017 #12
People pay union dues with the expectation that their leaders are on their side MichMan Aug 2017 #15
You've been following this. Please post some perspective Hortensis Aug 2017 #16
May have affected the UAW Nissan election results MichMan Aug 2017 #18
Yes. I'd guess anti-unionists made the most of this story, Hortensis Aug 2017 #19
Wicked on both sides. But extremes of wealth provides nurturing environment for corruption. lostnfound Aug 2017 #17
Well, these corrupt ones are on the rich side of the divide. Hortensis Aug 2017 #20
Decades of not fooled Aug 2017 #21
Union declines caused officials to steal to buy luxury items? nt MichMan Aug 2017 #22
No not fooled Aug 2017 #23
Link to the latest (related) DoJ Detroit PR nitpicker Aug 2017 #24
And link to an earlier DoJ PR nitpicker Aug 2017 #25
And link to the Doj PR on Iacobelli's indictment nitpicker Aug 2017 #26
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