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AtheistCrusader

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5. I think it makes it a bit irrelevant.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:00 PM
Oct 2017

I didn't need the RCC to tell me that the Death Penalty is problematic. I can do just fine opposing it on grounds of economic and racial bias in it's application, as well as the proven use of it against innocent people.

The pope's herp derpery about the 'sanctity of life' is really just part and parcel of aligning with their position on abortion. They seem to understand the concept of cognitive dissonance, that the pro-life (anti abortion), pro-death-penalty right wing doesn't seem to see.


So yeah. Great and all, but i'm not really impressed that the RCC is speaking out about it, on this one issue, with a weak argument, while with their other hand they move against family planning, death with dignity, access to contraceptives, hell they LED the charge in court against the ACA over the birth control mandate. (And won) Spending millions on, and supporting anti-same-sex-marriage efforts. The Mormons caught a lot of flack in California over Prop-8, but the Catholics were right there with them, second largest donor, largest voting bloc. (I'd argue the votes were more important than the donations.)

I'd also like to know, given this supposed special relationship between the Abrahamic god and this one church, that somehow the 'don't execute people' thing wasn't communicated earlier, with all that other 'revealed truth' they supposedly got.

That's kind of funny since his church used to burn people at the stake for saying mean things. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #1
Yeah. They did that 600 years ago. We all know about it. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #2
I think it makes it a bit irrelevant. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #5
My take is that it's an anti-hypocrisy step. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #7
I thought the anti-execution thing was much older, like John Paul II era 'please don't do that' sort AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #8
I got to wrap my head around this. yallerdawg Oct 2017 #3
What can I say. When a religious org makes a half-hearted positive noise about ONE issue I care AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #6
The Catholics also reject assisted suicide and euthanasia. Mosby Oct 2017 #4
Divorce the Pope saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #9
Well, didn't Jesus hang around with the dregs of society also? Lokilooney Oct 2017 #18
He also had saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #19
Yes Lokilooney Oct 2017 #23
I'm an atheist but I dig this Pope. apnu Oct 2017 #10
Name one specific issue he's progressive on that isn't copy/paste from pope John Paul II. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #11
But you are being an asshole apnu Oct 2017 #12
John Paul II had significant issues with poverty as well. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #14
His recent very controversial letter about the family, that got him slapped down pnwmom Oct 2017 #13
This qualifies as 'progressive'? AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #15
I hear you, AtheistCrusader. sandensea Oct 2017 #20
Climate Change-He's way ahead of the U.S. policies, not that hard these days Dread Pirate Roberts Oct 2017 #16
The RCC (not the USCCB) is divesting of carbon stocks. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #22
This is a huge source of fighting between Catholics in this country. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #17
figured this would be a tough sell in the USA rurallib Oct 2017 #21
And all the hard-line social conservative Catholics Vogon_Glory Oct 2017 #24
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