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apnu

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10. I'm an atheist but I dig this Pope.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:15 PM
Oct 2017

He's a liberal and pretty progressive heading an organization that is at least 50% hard-core conservative at the moment. He's probably got all kinds of internal political struggles to deal with on a daily basis, I know there's a cadre of cardinals that hate his guts.

But he's trying to drag an ancient religious organization into the light of the modern day, and he smiles and is pleasant about the whole thing.

But what I like most about him is he seems to be the kind of guy who actually walks his talk. Given that most Christian's I've met aren't Christian at all and don't emulate the life for philosophy of their God, here's a guy trying to lead by example. I respect that.

So while some will knee-jerk bash Catholics and religion in general around here, I am not one of those people. I judge people by their actions and his actions are pretty good.

Case in point, he opened a shelter for homeless people who can go to a clean bathroom, take a shower (soap is provided), and get a hair cut all for free. No strings attached, no requirements of conversion like the Salvation Army. Just hot clean water, soap and someone to give a trim. That's true human kindness.

Say what you will of the Church and its leaders, some of them are real hating assholes, but its current leader? Not so much.

Yes he's still behind on many things, but he's moving in the right direction and he's dragging the whole Vatican with him. That counts.

That's kind of funny since his church used to burn people at the stake for saying mean things. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #1
Yeah. They did that 600 years ago. We all know about it. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #2
I think it makes it a bit irrelevant. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #5
My take is that it's an anti-hypocrisy step. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #7
I thought the anti-execution thing was much older, like John Paul II era 'please don't do that' sort AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #8
I got to wrap my head around this. yallerdawg Oct 2017 #3
What can I say. When a religious org makes a half-hearted positive noise about ONE issue I care AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #6
The Catholics also reject assisted suicide and euthanasia. Mosby Oct 2017 #4
Divorce the Pope saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #9
Well, didn't Jesus hang around with the dregs of society also? Lokilooney Oct 2017 #18
He also had saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #19
Yes Lokilooney Oct 2017 #23
I'm an atheist but I dig this Pope. apnu Oct 2017 #10
Name one specific issue he's progressive on that isn't copy/paste from pope John Paul II. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #11
But you are being an asshole apnu Oct 2017 #12
John Paul II had significant issues with poverty as well. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #14
His recent very controversial letter about the family, that got him slapped down pnwmom Oct 2017 #13
This qualifies as 'progressive'? AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #15
I hear you, AtheistCrusader. sandensea Oct 2017 #20
Climate Change-He's way ahead of the U.S. policies, not that hard these days Dread Pirate Roberts Oct 2017 #16
The RCC (not the USCCB) is divesting of carbon stocks. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #22
This is a huge source of fighting between Catholics in this country. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #17
figured this would be a tough sell in the USA rurallib Oct 2017 #21
And all the hard-line social conservative Catholics Vogon_Glory Oct 2017 #24
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