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Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
45. Yes...lets talk history.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:04 AM
Oct 2017

You are definitely focusing on recent history....while using long term history as a claim. So lets go there...

1. The Temple Mount was used as a place to dump trash, excrement, etc. under Christian ruler-ship as a testament to the "failed" Jewish religion.

2. It was the Muslims who restored the Temple Mount to stature....while extreme elements of Jewish faith would love to ship "brick by brick" the Haram al-Sharif to Mecca. Completely ignoring there intervention, it could have remained that way for a very much longer time. It wasn't until the 1800's the fruit loops of Christian fundamentalism created the idea of Rapture and the building of the third temple would bring about the tribulations....although, you could argue its technically the fourth.

3. If a Jewish person so much as walked near the Church of the Holy Sepulcher...he would be lucky to walk away alive.

4. It was the Muslims who often in the past had to intervene in behalf of Jewish people in the "Holy Land" against the Christians.

5. And you are focusing on the Islamic nations claiming control while not focusing on why. Britain promised everyone and their mother they would have "Jerusalem" if they fought for them during WW1. Shit, Russia was supposed to get Istanbul...and be allowed to rename it Constantinople. And he 6-day war would have probably been the demise of Israel....if it wasn't for Jordan not being the "mood" to "cooperate" with Egypt and few other Arab nations....but that's another history.

But lets talk recent history...

1. European Jews practices toward Arab Jews. Shit, non-Jews such as the Subotniki from Russia got better recognition and treatment than a Jew from Yemen.

2. The "terror" attacks practiced by militant Jewish elements under the British Mandate. It worked for Begin...

3. The apartheid tactics used currently...and unlike South Africa, DNA says Jews and Palestinians...despite both hotly denying it and coming up with every excuse in the book...and making up more...are related. Even then, how do you differentiate between Palestinians who were originally Jewish in religion...but forced to convert in the centuries before and the history lost? An Israeli or Palestinian soldier shooting each other, could very well be long term lost cousins.

4. There was never a restoration of Israel...or Samaria if you prefer. Only Judah was restored after the return from Babylon...and that kingdom was about of a third of the size...and that's being generous...of King David's united kingdom.

5. Your not the only people whose history has been attempted to be erased by another. Christianity in its early days had three segments, where did the Gnostic Christians go? Or the Jewish Christians? Why was only the Gentile Christians allowed to survive?

I could go on. But you really stepped in it here. There are no good guys here...much like the three roving mob-gangs who were trying to claim authority and killing each other and own people just prior to the Roman Siege that resulted a little over half of the population of Judah being exiled.

You probably don't like anything I had to say just here, but hey, I don't like saying it either. But it did happen.

Introducing UNESCO left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #1
In other words, everything both Cheeto and Netanyahoo are against. sandensea Oct 2017 #39
Supporting Palestine is not anti Israel, it is pro people Not Ruth Oct 2017 #2
...and given they both have similar DNA.... Xolodno Oct 2017 #43
When UNESCO tried to pull leftynyc Oct 2017 #3
They decided that the Cave of the Patriarchs is a Palestinian site Mosby Oct 2017 #7
I'm aware leftynyc Oct 2017 #8
What about everything NON ISRAEL they do? karynnj Oct 2017 #22
I'm sorry, but I can't leftynyc Oct 2017 #33
I was speaking of UNESCO, so your analogy that infers I was speaking of the Palestinians karynnj Oct 2017 #34
I just read it again leftynyc Oct 2017 #37
If aliens came down tomorrow they would gape at the silly shit we fight over... Baconator Oct 2017 #15
I'm just going to leftynyc Oct 2017 #21
That's fine... Baconator Oct 2017 #23
Are we to pretend leftynyc Oct 2017 #24
If you don't think there are people from every interested party... Baconator Oct 2017 #25
I see we're going leftynyc Oct 2017 #26
...because? Baconator Oct 2017 #31
Try learning some HISTORY leftynyc Oct 2017 #32
It's the same bullshit throughout and I d on't think you are capable of seeing it... Baconator Oct 2017 #42
Yes...lets talk history. Xolodno Oct 2017 #45
Of course, NONE of that has leftynyc Oct 2017 #51
That was my point...is it Jewish? Xolodno Oct 2017 #54
As a Jew, I would ask is it not true that Judaism switched from temple worship with animal sacrifice karynnj Oct 2017 #35
I hardly think leftynyc Oct 2017 #38
UNESCO had nothing to do with "turning it into a garbage dump" karynnj Oct 2017 #40
When the "group" leftynyc Oct 2017 #46
They did not and could not "hand the wall" to anyone karynnj Oct 2017 #47
You are trying to make this larger leftynyc Oct 2017 #52
Again, UNESCO can not hand over land anywhere, anytime They do not have that power karynnj Oct 2017 #53
Isn't Israel a member ? TubbersUK Oct 2017 #4
Yes. Israel will be leaving as well. grossproffit Oct 2017 #13
Thanks n/t TubbersUK Oct 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author TubbersUK Oct 2017 #18
NOTHING trump does is good and EVERYTHING he does is told to him to do by Putin Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #5
This wasn't done at the behest leftynyc Oct 2017 #10
Ain't it grand? I travel the world to see UNESCO sites and now my country sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #6
Then perhaps leftynyc Oct 2017 #9
Accept nobody has made those sites Judenrein. That's all I'm saying about the sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #16
25 years ago I could leftynyc Oct 2017 #20
The difference is not because of a UNESCO designation karynnj Oct 2017 #48
Like you, I have enjoyed seeing many of them - most recently Radicofani in Italy karynnj Oct 2017 #36
This is just a symbolic act ripcord Oct 2017 #11
For VERY good reason (n/t) leftynyc Oct 2017 #12
No. alarimer Oct 2017 #27
Pres Obama leftynyc Oct 2017 #29
CONGRESS, not Obama, stopped the payments karynnj Oct 2017 #50
I'm good with this. grossproffit Oct 2017 #14
Tel Aviv cracks the whip and Washington falls in line Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #17
Yes. alarimer Oct 2017 #28
And yet still heads and shoulders leftynyc Oct 2017 #30
No one on DU gives the repressive Sunni or Shia states karynnj Oct 2017 #49
How does that even fucking work? Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Oct 2017 #44
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