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KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
8. I can sympathize.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:19 AM
Nov 2017

These guys have coal mining in their blood and family history, so like most of us we don't want to give up on the familiar - especially when it's been there for generations.

Unfortunately, like most dying industries, time and the stock market will end it for them and they'll have to move on. Some mining will remain, but on a very limited basis.

It is extremely cruel for the tRump administration to suggest to these people that coal will return to its former glory, therefore bringing in false hope.



Its like a freaking cargo cult dhol82 Nov 2017 #1
You pegged it. Insightful. And they trust him on the tax {strike}reform{/strike} heist. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #16
I never would have thought of that, but exactly right. CanonRay Nov 2017 #27
dhol22, exactly! Nitram Nov 2017 #40
In one emoji character should sum this up turbinetree Nov 2017 #2
All over the west there are ghost towns where the mines were, greymattermom Nov 2017 #4
Are the descendants of the Bodie miners still waiting for gold mining to come back? DBoon Nov 2017 #22
It's the heart because when mining dried up, disability was the answer. ileus Nov 2017 #95
There's dumb . . . Sam McGee Nov 2017 #5
It's called being willfully ignorant. SharonClark Nov 2017 #6
AKA republican base. mikeysnot Nov 2017 #42
They used to be Union Democrats Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #59
Even if coal were to come back, lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #57
One of the things perhaps better done by robots treestar Nov 2017 #77
A robot can't get black lung disease, or die from the boss ignoring safety regs... Hekate Nov 2017 #143
Steam locomotive repair courses should be included. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #7
That course is full maxrandb Nov 2017 #13
How About Wagoneer Classes? ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #24
Maybe blacksmith classes too True_Blue Nov 2017 #46
Buggy whip making. Turbineguy Nov 2017 #104
Recent advances in stone tools. Squinch Nov 2017 #107
Rotary phone are too new fangled Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2017 #132
Flat Earth, Evil Spirit Exorcism, and leaches. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #56
Telegraph operator? MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #102
I can sympathize. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #8
Yes, exactly. Very cruel of Trump to lie to them. Good leadership would have encouraged Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #10
+1 demmiblue Nov 2017 #15
Thank you. Tracer Nov 2017 #44
Yes, we don't know his situation and have no right to judge. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #62
"These guys have coal mining in their blood and family history" jberryhill Nov 2017 #52
Farming and timber (and the civil war) and me a retired engineer. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #63
Well, if it's not relevant.... jberryhill Nov 2017 #67
Coal mining is different T_i_B Nov 2017 #139
In coal country your GGF, GF, Father and all your uncles were coal miners. ileus Nov 2017 #100
But when you can't follow in the family's footsteps, when those jobs have been gone for the better Squinch Nov 2017 #108
Just hit the nail on the head there T_i_B Nov 2017 #138
Thank you, T_i_B for your input from the UK. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #141
Actually.... T_i_B Nov 2017 #142
Well now we know just how stupid the Trumpsters are vlyons Nov 2017 #9
"We should cut of safety net aid to any coal miner, who does not accept retraining. " keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #18
I didn't realize that vlyons Nov 2017 #23
The nursing and computer programming courses were not to provide low cost mining workers. Squinch Nov 2017 #109
They're used to 100k a year, being a clerk at the Dollar General ileus Nov 2017 #97
The Secret Service should take note of guys like this DFW Nov 2017 #11
This type of thinking just reaffirms what historians are saying bronxiteforever Nov 2017 #12
+1 yes East Asia as a whole lunasun Nov 2017 #28
Could we be any more condescending? GaryCnf Nov 2017 #14
Depends upon whom you are calling working class delisen Nov 2017 #20
Thank you. mobeau69 Nov 2017 #21
Um, this guy deserves it. He's being offered FREE EDUCATION and he sticks his head in the sand. Coventina Nov 2017 #35
You must live a comfortable life GaryCnf Nov 2017 #48
I spent most of my childhood homeless. That taught me that education is critical to a better life. Coventina Nov 2017 #49
Ah, the J.D. Vance GaryCnf Nov 2017 #50
Who is asking anyone to go backwards? Coventina Nov 2017 #64
What do you think a union coal miner makes? GaryCnf Nov 2017 #69
How much do they make when there are no jobs? Coventina Nov 2017 #70
I think we were talking about GaryCnf Nov 2017 #74
They are stupid if they are depending on them coming back. Coventina Nov 2017 #76
then what do they want? treestar Nov 2017 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #125
1/2 of what he had before is better than nothing vlyons Nov 2017 #110
Right!? KPN Nov 2017 #37
when mechanization changed southern farming after WWII DBoon Nov 2017 #53
Somehow you are elitist for pointing that out. Coventina Nov 2017 #65
Seeing as how GaryCnf Nov 2017 #66
my aren't you touchy today DBoon Nov 2017 #71
No one has a right to always treestar Nov 2017 #82
As I said in my original post GaryCnf Nov 2017 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #126
there is a kind of willfully stubborn treestar Nov 2017 #78
So much misinformation, so little time. Squinch Nov 2017 #83
Let's see if I get this right GaryCnf Nov 2017 #96
Ok, "friend." You go to Wikipedia-lite for your numbers. I prefer a real source: Squinch Nov 2017 #106
Let me count the ways GaryCnf Nov 2017 #111
WTF? No, your wiki source and the Census Bureau numbers I quoted are NOT saying the same thing. Squinch Nov 2017 #113
I'm seeing a pattern of responding with a snowstorm of dense text Hortensis Nov 2017 #115
And I find it interesting that once I voiced my suspicions I haven't heard a peep. Squinch Nov 2017 #116
Oh, he was too busy calling me a liar in another thread. :) Hortensis Nov 2017 #117
The persona is not consistent either. Let's you and me stand over here on the side and Squinch Nov 2017 #118
:) Hortensis Nov 2017 #120
Enjoy it! Squinch Nov 2017 #121
Apparently I misunderstood GaryCnf Nov 2017 #128
. Squinch Nov 2017 #130
Miners Cold War Spook Nov 2017 #124
Bureau of Labor Statistics data hatrack Nov 2017 #129
To be fair NCDem777 Nov 2017 #135
Totally agree GaryCnf Nov 2017 #136
Yes, we need to have empathy for people who have absolutely none of anyone else Cosmocat Nov 2017 #94
I'm assuming you met "for" GaryCnf Nov 2017 #99
Why would a coal mining course be offered? onlyadream Nov 2017 #17
That's what I was thinking TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #75
Responding to local demand? Not all jobs are gone yet. Hortensis Nov 2017 #122
There was a video clip of Sarah Silverman onlyadream Nov 2017 #137
Lol, what an insult. Worse, genetically something like Hortensis Nov 2017 #140
Cheech and Chong in High School: I took Spanish; got a B. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #19
He will be very upset when some "other person " who took the realistic training gets a job lunasun Nov 2017 #25
I think they're afraid as well. Kittycow Nov 2017 #30
he probably fears the other person who will take the realistic job more than the unknown lunasun Nov 2017 #32
Life is a step into the unknown - that's the human condition hatrack Nov 2017 #51
Sadly the success of these retraining programs are AJT Nov 2017 #34
That's the reality ... KPN Nov 2017 #38
And he'll say that "other person" STOLE his job. And he's being discriminated against. Squinch Nov 2017 #84
He will be very disappointed. Trump hoodwinked these people SummerSnow Nov 2017 #26
Believe ME! Zambero Nov 2017 #31
Coal will come back strong Zambero Nov 2017 #29
blocking the sun to eliminate cheap energy? DBoon Nov 2017 #55
I haven't watched that one yet Zambero Nov 2017 #73
and they'll be making coal powered cars soon pstokely Nov 2017 #33
GM Once Built These Fascinating Coal-Powered Turbine Cars mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #61
It boggles the mind... malthaussen Nov 2017 #36
Proving once again gibraltar72 Nov 2017 #39
To hell with these ignorant, self-destructive people. Paladin Nov 2017 #41
"Would you like fries with that?" hatrack Nov 2017 #43
I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble feeling bad for these people. I went to art school. Everyone Neema Nov 2017 #45
I grew up in the declining Steel mill era - all too familiar packman Nov 2017 #47
And that explains republicans: magic selfish thinking. lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #54
Neither nursing nor computer programming exboyfil Nov 2017 #58
No. They don't fit his skill set. That's why he'd need to train for it. Squinch Nov 2017 #85
I guess I should use the term aptitude exboyfil Nov 2017 #88
Everyone in the world needs to select their profession from the professions that are available Squinch Nov 2017 #89
Thank you! Coventina Nov 2017 #90
I was once in publishing. I did work that I began to see was not going to continue Squinch Nov 2017 #92
Exactly. You nailed it. White men who blame everyone else for their problems. Coventina Nov 2017 #93
Maybe it will come back. There still are a lot of naughty people who need coal in their stockings. Doreen Nov 2017 #60
Wait!! Get training to make 8 track cartridges,that technology is coming back too!! n/t Bengus81 Nov 2017 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Nov 2017 #86
I'm retraining now to learn how to make buggy whips left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #72
Move to the Redoubt. You're certain to get rich. jmowreader Nov 2017 #80
Trump would probably buy some to use with his golden shower parties. Elwood P Dowd Nov 2017 #81
Bahahaha! I just self deleted my joke about buggy whips because I see you got there first! Squinch Nov 2017 #87
60 minutes should do a piece on this immediately truthisfreedom Nov 2017 #91
It is too bad that anyone would believe one of trump's lies Gothmog Nov 2017 #101
Yet another way Donnie is harming these people unblock Nov 2017 #103
I have a hard time sympathizing with these people. Luciferous Nov 2017 #105
Another example of 45's words causing real harm to people DesertRat Nov 2017 #112
Some seem compelled to salve GaryCnf Nov 2017 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #127
IN other news, parachute pants are selling out all over W VA lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #123
And Trump will lead the way: CakeGrrl Nov 2017 #144
They are dillusional in every sense JDC Nov 2017 #131
Coal is no longer profitable enough. alphafemale Nov 2017 #133
Difficult to overcome entrenched willful ignorance. FreeStateDemocrat Nov 2017 #134
Sorry, but coal is dead. It's never coming back, and it shouldn't. Oneironaut Nov 2017 #145
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