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haele

(12,645 posts)
14. Take it to the Courts. Again and Again.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:11 PM
Mar 2018

1. "Sanctuary Cities" are not even a trademark. It's a campaign slogan, at best. There's no recognizable definition of what that designation actually means - just like a nickname. If I regularly call my boss "Pickle-Bear" in public and s/he's cool with it, what does that mean to anyone else other than a general sense of camaraderie or trusting friendship?
2. Jurisdiction/State and Local Rights. The state and local governments are still following the rules so far as they can, but they're not going out of their way to spend their limited resources targeting otherwise "law abiding" citizens. Just as state and local governments don't - and can't - aggressively go after under-the-table tax cheats or people driving or running businesses without licenses or insurance, they don't have to go after and spend money on otherwise harmless undocumented residents that wouldn't normally even come up on their budgetary radar.
3. Equal protection/targeting based on race - and the 5th Amendment. ICE is going after Central and South Americans in particular. Yes, they'll get the occasional European or Asian "outstayed the visa" business owner or professional when they get a complaint about his or her status from a rival or vengeful a-hole, but for the most part, ICE targets communities where there are already a lot of green-card holders, naturalized and native born citizens who just happen to be brown and speak a version of Spanish along with English.
How many poor native born citizens have been targeted up by ICE just because of the way they look when they don't think they have to carry their ID with them at all times? What if all someone who's brown has as official identification is a Social Security card and their birth certificate, which they keep at home (like you're supposed to) and bring out when necessary? Will INS and Homeland Security be focusing on groups of people who look like they have Polish or Irish heritage as hard as they do people who look like the darker section of a sample paint hue strip?

It's not legal to target people due to their ethnicity. So, forcing states and local governments to do so is unconstitutional - especially by withholding funding or other punitive measures.

Haele

Nazi elf orangecrush Mar 2018 #1
Just like the rest of the trash from Alabamie they have a dream: The return of Robert E Lee. olegramps Mar 2018 #15
That's rich, coming from the most lawless administration in American history radliberal Mar 2018 #21
Sessions, rumpface and their deplorable followers would love to Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #2
NO, how dare YOU you hateful, racist troll BuddhaGirl Mar 2018 #3
Isn't Sessions a States Rights Proponent? FSogol Mar 2018 #4
Only when it fits his personal bias. lark Mar 2018 #5
Said it before and I will say it again.... TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #6
CalExit was created by the Russians. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #30
What's it all about - Elfie? Plucketeer Mar 2018 #7
It's not secession, it's jurisdiction. haele Mar 2018 #8
Ok, but what is the solution when the standing regime refuses to recognize the difference? TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #9
Take it to the Courts. Again and Again. haele Mar 2018 #14
Well, so far.... TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #18
You can't force local police to act as ICE agents, but at the same time you can't actively hinder... PoliticAverse Mar 2018 #29
Jefferson Davis Beauregard says "there is no secession." n/t malthaussen Mar 2018 #10
Catchy name, remind me again who the fuck was good ol' Jeff Davis, a great American??? FreeStateDemocrat Mar 2018 #12
that's right keebler, piss off California whose economy basically floats the United States. nt Javaman Mar 2018 #11
BS!!! Jeff Sessions. You pick and choose. States rights when it benefits you. usaf-vet Mar 2018 #13
Fuck you Jeff!!!!! GTFO out of my state! Initech Mar 2018 #16
Bilbo Bigot speaks! hatrack Mar 2018 #17
Bilbo Bigot! Glamrock Mar 2018 #33
If there's someone who knows how to do righteous indignation, it's Jeff Sessions. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2018 #19
This will be fun to watch as it plays out in the courts (9th Circuit) alwaysinasnit Mar 2018 #20
10th Amendment Cold War Spook Mar 2018 #22
States aren't required to enforce the laws of the Federal Government, but as you point out... PoliticAverse Mar 2018 #28
So what you gonna do to stop CA, numbnuts? roamer65 Mar 2018 #23
well, there should be, IMO. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2018 #24
The chief law enforcement perjurer said what? Zorro Mar 2018 #25
"... Alabama tried it and failed." muntrv Mar 2018 #26
Had no idea that Jeff the Elf stuttered. Lint Head Mar 2018 #27
Was everyone ordered to applaud? left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #31
LOL, states rights for me, not for thee... Thomas Hurt Mar 2018 #32
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