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In reply to the discussion: Democrats Are Considering Dropping Superdelegates Altogether [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)301. Including Bernie Sanders? (nt)
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I guess you just can't trust candidates that have the support of lobbyists, can you?
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#192
I think I've already asked this of you elsewhere, who is the "Newscorp lobbyist" who....
George II
Mar 2018
#345
Precisely, I've NEVER seen a definition of "status quo" around here. What is it?
George II
Mar 2018
#344
How did super delegates impede growth and change? And here we go again with....
George II
Mar 2018
#245
Give it arrest...some folks employed as lobbyist are Democrats. So pure...so going to lose
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#98
If they arent officuals in the party in any other capacity, why are they superdelegates?
Tiggeroshii
Mar 2018
#103
Elected officials can lose their positions. They should have their one vote, and that
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#190
Jimmy Carter should not have a say in what my party does? Al Gore? Walter Mondale?
George II
Mar 2018
#266
I am opposed to having a sort of elite in the Democratic Party, and the super delegates
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#393
This will be a big test of the sincerity of the Democrats' belief in democracy.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#380
You seem to be confused: Superdelegates only vote at the Convention - not on legislation.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#198
Got it: Superdelegates who are also reps don't represent their constituents at the convention.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#218
You don't even know who your post #150 was addressing?? You smear her but don't
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#209
I do not object to any specific super delegate. They are all fine people I am sure.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#311
No delegate to the national convention is ever selected at the grass roots level
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#323
Have you ever attended a state convention or participated in delegate selection processs?
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#322
With some variations, that process is basically they way it works in other states AND....
George II
Mar 2018
#339
To take this one step further, no presidential candidate is ever "elected" at the state level.....
George II
Mar 2018
#343
Posters active in this thread are writing from Russia, one way or another, and we have to say
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#224
"All Democratic Senators are given that rank, and the Democratic National Committee gave Sanders
shanny
Mar 2018
#327
ALL non-elected-official super delegates are DNC members and virtually all are Democrats.
George II
Mar 2018
#241
They are registered Democrats and worked in the party for years...they work at Fox...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#99
It is a decision they are leaning towards and making clear is more likely than not.
Tiggeroshii
Mar 2018
#141
The GOP doesn't have supers but they have winner take all primaries which are less Democratic in
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#365
I enthusiastically second this post. Look to where the super delegate scolding is coming from.
NBachers
Mar 2018
#140
I am so sick of them...really. I would never vote for any Our Revolution candidate
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#229
And the coup causes some to think that if only we ran a progressive...well first of
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#355
She is quite remarkable and has run for office and donates and as every right to be a delegate.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#234
And that means what...I like super delegates. It means we never get a 'Trump' and no
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#360
All delegates to conventions that nominate candidates should be chosen in elections.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#310
All delegates to conventions that nominate candidates should be chosen in accordance....
George II
Mar 2018
#364
Your posts show that you have no idea as to how the process works in the real world
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#329
Oh...well that is it ...green causes too...why why she must go of course. (Sarcasm)
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#225
Actually, no she doesn't "work at Fox," that seems to be wild speculation by some here.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#230
Funny how an employee of an organization becomes a "lobbyist" for that organization.
George II
Mar 2018
#318
How about more people that worked in the trenches being allowed to be delegates
MichMan
Mar 2018
#265
I support getting rid of caucuses that serve as primaries and super delegates.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#193
In 2008, Texas had the Texas two step which was a combination of primary and caucus
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#239
Washington had primaries in 2008 and 2016 that didn't count, but they had to hold them by law.
LisaM
Mar 2018
#248
So letting elected party officials be delegates to the national convention is offensive
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#172
They were not elected as superdelegates to give a vote for their candidate
Tiggeroshii
Mar 2018
#173
I ran and was elected as a delegate to the 2016 convention and so I paid attention to the rules
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#231
Why do you think that the Congressional Black Caucus would want "undemocratic methods?"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#186
Talking about how the Black Congressional Caucus doesn't "understand" the system.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#212
One reason is so we don't get a trump. The repugs wish that they had had super delegates.
brush
Mar 2018
#61
The subject was super delegates, right? Hillary got her early lead in them because Sanders...
brush
Mar 2018
#81
Did you not get the part about making sure POCs are included in a reduced amont of...
brush
Mar 2018
#92
I don't think that will happen. The super delegate structure was designed to protect against that.
brush
Mar 2018
#100
Your suggestion is to abolish it? Super delegates are not there to protect POC voters, they're...
brush
Mar 2018
#138
What do you think almost happened in 2016? A non-Dem who but for not campaigning...
brush
Mar 2018
#94
In 2008, top political allies of Obama made the point that the superdelegates would respect and not
karynnj
Mar 2018
#36
There were substantial efforts made to flip even pledged delegates by the Sanders people
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#244
I think you may not be remembering things as they happened. "All the superdelegates?"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#233
During the general, absolutely, but the MSM wanted HRC to be the nominee
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2018
#334
I think you are ignoring the long history of biased media coverage against HRC.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#354
I would say WaPo is certainly part of the MSM narrative crafting machine
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2018
#369
except that it's not a stacked deck, superdelegates have never overturned the voters
CreekDog
Mar 2018
#20
How are they going to accomplish one of the goals -- which was to make sure that POC
pnwmom
Mar 2018
#7
I agree. We need to get rid of caucuses. No question, they're the least Democratic way to choose a
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#11
i think we should shift to primaries where they're available, though many places they aren't
CreekDog
Mar 2018
#41
I agree with that. Primaries with a nice, long voting period and easy drop-off ballots would
PatrickforO
Mar 2018
#52
That may explain a great deal as to why one group wants to get rid of superdelegates
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#130
I say reduce the number but keep some protection against a trump-like candidate. The repugs...
brush
Mar 2018
#62
That's not the point and Bernie isn't the point. Any candidate should face an unweighted delegate
Vinca
Mar 2018
#269
Congressional Black Caucus balks at two political reforms being pitched by Bernie Sanders
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#127
So they want to get rid of SDs, that have never mattered when it comes to the nom, but
all american girl
Mar 2018
#27
Without a doubt, but as the old saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#287
Just a simple observation. During the primaries trump got about 25% of the republican vote with
still_one
Mar 2018
#102
Superdelegates are needed until the party tightens up its qualifications on who's allowed to run...
NurseJackie
Mar 2018
#46
At our local precinct caucus we passed proposal to do away with SD--again this year
randr
Mar 2018
#50
very bad idea, but if they do it...need to include winner take all primaries and no
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#96
I agree...but if you lose the supers...there is little choice because anyone close election could
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#362
I think it's a good idea, so that means it probably won't happen. Establishment Dems run the show.
YOHABLO
Mar 2018
#107
Superdelegates undercut the argument of one person - one vote. A superdelegate votes in the primary
24601
Mar 2018
#161
Why do you conflate and assume support of the Unity Reofrm Council's superdelagate proposal
Devil Child
Mar 2018
#219
This thread is not about the Unity Commission proposal but a different proposal
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#228
it is a quote from ANIMAL FARM..ya know the classic used to teach us that unchecked power always
questionseverything
Mar 2018
#404
A friend in the Texas legislature proposed it but this did not get out of committee
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#273