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In reply to the discussion: Democrats delay change to convention superdelegates [View all]Gothmog
(145,130 posts)59. You should not use terms that you do not know the definition of
You seem to like using definitions in your posts. Here you are using a term that you do not understand. Let.s look at legal definition of the term "corruption" as used in the real world https://thelawdictionary.org/corruption/
What is CORRUPTION?
Illegality; a vicious and fraudulent intention to evade the prohibitions of the law. The act of an official or fiduciary person who unlawfully and wrongfully uses his station or character to procure some benefit for himself or for another person, contrary to duty and the rights of others. U. S. v. Johnson (C. C.) 20 Fed. 082; State v. Ragsdale. 59 Mo. App. 003; Wight v. Rindskopf, 43 Wis. 351; Worsham v. Murchison, 00 Ga. 719; U. S. v. Edwards (C. C.) 43 Fed. 07.
Illegality; a vicious and fraudulent intention to evade the prohibitions of the law. The act of an official or fiduciary person who unlawfully and wrongfully uses his station or character to procure some benefit for himself or for another person, contrary to duty and the rights of others. U. S. v. Johnson (C. C.) 20 Fed. 082; State v. Ragsdale. 59 Mo. App. 003; Wight v. Rindskopf, 43 Wis. 351; Worsham v. Murchison, 00 Ga. 719; U. S. v. Edwards (C. C.) 43 Fed. 07.
In the real world where I live and work, allowing elected members of Congress such as the CBC, party chairmen and other elected officials to be automatic delegates to the national convention is not corrupt. Members of the CBC are opposed to this proposal in part because these members of Congress believe that they should have the right to have a say in the party. The same is true for the various chairs and vice chairs of each state party. In what strange world is it corrupt for these people to be delegates to the national convention? These officials are senior members of the party and there is nothing wrong or corrupt in these officials being admitted as delegates.
You really should not use terms that you do not understand. Using a legal term such as corruption with respect to super delegates shows that you do not understand the definition of this word or what corruption really means.
I live in the real world and key groups who are actual members of the Democratic Party and who actually work to help elect candidates have no issue with super delegates. Again, African American voters are a key group in the Democratic Party. African American women were key to Doug Jones winning in Alabama https://www.npr.org/2017/12/13/570531505/black-votes-matter-african-americans-propel-jones-to-alabama-win The fact that some fringe groups want to alienate this key group of votes in part because that group does not support their candidate is sad.
You may not like super delegates but the existence of super delegates is not corrupt. I will be happy to tell Sheila Jackson Lee, Al Green, Texas state party Gilberto Hinojosa, and the other super delegates who I know your definition of corruption. Gilberto, Al and Sheila are all lawyers and they will be amused to find that you think that they are corrupt.
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Exactly right. They can't be rid of superdelegates because they refuse to be rid of superdelegates.
marble falls
Mar 2018
#4
I in no way would call him great, and he had his own immense flaws, but IF the Republicans
Exotica
Mar 2018
#77
The Democrats during Lincoln's time were like most white males, highly prejudiced and racist.
still_one
Mar 2018
#81
Convenient response to the question, though not an answer to the question.
LanternWaste
Mar 2018
#89
I disagree. They vote with the person with the most votes...and I would remind you that
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#93
Hillary Clinton endorsed President Obama early in June before the Texas state Democratic Convention
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#78
Thank you for an excellent post, Gothmog, and for bringing valued rationality
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#110
Nominations for public office should be made by the voters, decided by the voters.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#114
Super delegates at a convention that is supposed to reflect the outcome of a democratic
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#128
I have explained several times that I am accusing an institution, not individuals,
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#121
Why do you think that Bernie participated in what you say is a "corrupt process?"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#129
And his top campaign adviser helped create the system of super delegates.....
George II
Mar 2018
#132
Actually, super delegates were invented because the Democratic hierarchy was not
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#98
Bingo. Candidates who run for POTUS on a Dem ticket agree to the rules when they run.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#38
Well, anyone who runs as a Dem agrees to those rules. Bernie was a superdelegate
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#43
We have them so we can avoid a Trump like candidate and to avoid a legal mess in the event of a
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#95
Who is the Trump of the left? Unlike Republicans, we don't have brain damaged racist wing
yurbud
Mar 2018
#99
you can say that after 16? A whole lot of people fell for the Russian crap...and think about this...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#100
It is pretty clear the Russians attacked our elections and tricked many into voting for Stein...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#105
Disclaimer - this is NOT refighting the primary (although others apparently are), but.....
George II
Mar 2018
#60
Congressional Black Caucus balks at two political reforms being pitched by Bernie Sanders
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#31
So Bernie Sanders - who was a Superdelegate in 2016, was one of "the same old establishment Dems?"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#58
Superdelegates introduce sanity in to counter populists, an example of which is Trump.
NNadir
Mar 2018
#52
The funny thing is, that if they got rid of superdelegates, the winner would be clear earlier
KitSileya
Mar 2018
#87
The most important reason to KEEP superdelegates is sitting in the White House
jmowreader
Mar 2018
#102