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mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
17. It is deeply ingrained and off topic
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:08 PM
Apr 2018

I can't find the article I was looking for, but a test question, from a middle school standardized test went something like this:

John and Joe enjoyed a game of golf then went into the country _____ to eat lunch.

A/restaurant
B/club
C/church
D/Car

The correct answer being B. But minorities, esp those on the lower economic scale or inner cities would think the answer is A.

On its face it doesn't appear to be racist

Many minorities haven't been exposed to country clubs in their everyday lives. Besides, a club is what you use to golf with, not eat in. Or buy groceries in (sam's club), a sports group of players and fans, etc.

But I did find these articles:


The SAT uses an experimental section to test questions that may be used on future tests. If the questions don’t test well, they are scrapped. If they do well, the questions are placed on future tests. But how do test administrators decide when a question does well? By the performance of white males.

Researcher Jay Rosner analyzed 276 verbal and math questions from the 1998-2000 SATs. He discovered what he calls “Black questions,” which more Blacks than whites answered correctly on the experimental sections. These questions never made it onto the scored sections of future tests. Instead, the SAT contains the “White questions.” Rosner argues that the questions are geared toward whites, as test developers are mandated to recreate the norm, and the norm is White males outperforming their peers.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/12/04/4-ways-the-sat-is-culturally-biased-against-black-students/


Now read this:


The focus of both studies is on questions that show "differential item functioning," known by its acronym DIF. A DIF question is one on which students "matched by proficiency" and other factors have variable scores, predictably by race, on selected questions. A DIF question has notable differences between black and white (or, in theory, other subsets of students) whose educational background and skill set suggest that they should get similar scores. The 2003 study and this year's found no DIF issues in the mathematics section.

But what Freedle found in 2003 has now been confirmed independently by the new study: that some kinds of verbal questions have a DIF for black and white students. On some of the easier verbal questions, the two studies found that a DIF favored white students. On some of the most difficult verbal questions, the DIF favored black students. Freedle's theory about why this would be the case was that easier questions are likely reflected in the cultural expressions that are used commonly in the dominant (white) society, so white students have an edge based not on education or study skills or aptitude, but because they are most likely growing up around white people. The more difficult words are more likely to be learned, not just absorbed.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/06/21/sat


apologies, apologies, apologies heaven05 Apr 2018 #1
On the 2nd hole mercuryblues Apr 2018 #2
Exactly. I think it was the idea that they didnt belong there. Oneironaut Apr 2018 #16
It is deeply ingrained and off topic mercuryblues Apr 2018 #17
White privilege needs to be kicked in the head and stomped into oblivion! Lonestarblue Apr 2018 #3
Thanks Trump. OregonBlue Apr 2018 #4
Why not ask to play through instead of honking at the group ahead to speed up? paleotn Apr 2018 #5
Racist couldnt complain about them if he was in front of them. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2018 #6
The ladies mercuryblues Apr 2018 #18
You are correct. paleotn Apr 2018 #20
They are members of the club. Cold War Spook Apr 2018 #7
It is bullshit, and calling the police for this is unacceptable, and at a minimum they need to be still_one Apr 2018 #8
Apologies just like thoughts and prayers are not enough! tulipsandroses Apr 2018 #9
I'm a golfer mac2766 Apr 2018 #10
Playing too slowly - are you frikken kidding me? Maybe the other group was playing too fast. On a Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2018 #11
Double Fuck that golf course. TeamPooka Apr 2018 #12
Do they tell alot of old white guys to LEAVE the course because of slow play? Bengus81 Apr 2018 #13
ON THE SECOND FUCKING HOLE???!??!?!?! AZ8theist Apr 2018 #14
What does "play through" mean - do you mean to say that they had option of just bypassing people who Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2018 #15
Depends on the meaning of the word "leisurely" JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2018 #19
here's the deal.. AZ8theist Apr 2018 #22
Except that the douchebag who complained catrose Apr 2018 #26
Awh..come on...Theres no racism in Amerika laserhaas Apr 2018 #21
I play a lot of golf. I hate playing behind a slow group. WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2018 #23
There's a third type of slow player AZ8theist Apr 2018 #24
That's a really good point... WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2018 #25
exactly AZ8theist May 2018 #31
Everyone who maintains a membership in this club RockRaven Apr 2018 #27
The women are all members MichMan Apr 2018 #29
This club may be falling on hard times, soon. leanforward Apr 2018 #28
The women were accepted as members MichMan Apr 2018 #30
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