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research_guy

(22 posts)
17. Leadership, November, etc
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jul 2018

It speaks to the mess the party has become when a kid can gun down a veteran like that. They're giving up his seniority, his contacts, his experience. Tim Ryan has been screaming bloody murder but no one's listening.

Some of this is about to happen in the Senate. McCaskill has been on a list of seats almost certain to flip for several years running. I thought Nelson might survive as a former astronaut and borderline Dixiecrat but they say not. Manchin will be fine. Joe Manchin lose in West Virginia? The hell you say! Casey's name has come up but the guy is Pennsylvania royalty. I don't see him being beefed.

Brown's being targeted by a guy who's worth anywhere from $50M to $100M. Jane Timken has a fucking target painted on his back. I've noticed the networks have very conspicuously stopped talking about that race. He was everywhere and now he's nowhere. I told my wife it's at least even money we'll walk into one of the wineries, stop at the registration desk and there's Sherrod and Connie. I hope it isn't Wente. One would think he has better taste than that. They're the McDonalds of wine.

Some of us have been around awhile and see the overall pattern. My wife and I were government majors, worked on campaigns, etc. I've cooked a ton of spaghetti sauce and baked a lot of cookies in my time.

Within the next few years, there will be a meeting among all the major constituencies and senior leadership. At that time, the big players will begin to strip the flesh from the carcass and proceed with building a new party. New coalitions need to be formed, certain races identified for testing of ideas, millions of dollars raised, etc. We're building a new house because someone burned the other one down.

This is standard nuts and bolts, right out of the book. Those of us who have a copy or two should keep them handy.

I'm really hoping 2020 doesn't end up looking like 1972 but it might. I think we're gonna have to get sicker before we can get well.

I think Sanchez has done this before, just like Tim Ryan. Laurian Jul 2018 #1
Me too DownriverDem Jul 2018 #5
She's just giving walkaway fuel kimbutgar Jul 2018 #2
"If we get control" There's the rub LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #16
Let's use our experience to the maximum as the next generation is chosen bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #3
Exactly DownriverDem Jul 2018 #6
How does discussing leadership now affect our ability to win in November? brooklynite Jul 2018 #8
The GOP runs against Pelosi and this makes some Dems look complicit. bettyellen Jul 2018 #12
...to whom? brooklynite Jul 2018 #19
I think a lot of ignorant voters pick up on this chatter, same as they did w HRC.... bettyellen Jul 2018 #22
Pelosi research_guy Jul 2018 #20
Age doesn't guarantee competency. Either way. Passing the torch is only a positive if Guilded Lilly Jul 2018 #4
Experience DownriverDem Jul 2018 #15
I Completely and Totally... research_guy Jul 2018 #21
The party has been gaining favorability steadily since 2016... bettyellen Jul 2018 #23
I think maybe a plan to phase out the leadership? NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #7
I agree. nt RandiFan1290 Jul 2018 #9
Number 5 wants 1 - 3 gone so she can move up the list. Scurrilous Jul 2018 #10
Yup. She was hoping to replace Boxer-CA 2016 when she retired.. Wwcd Jul 2018 #11
I wonder if its possible to have our cake and eat it too. aikoaiko Jul 2018 #13
Stop answering this question if asked FFS awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #14
Leadership, November, etc research_guy Jul 2018 #17
I agree n/t hibbing Jul 2018 #18
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