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MosheFeingold

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45. The law

Tue Oct 30, 2018, 08:46 AM

Oct 2018

Per an old case is two green card holders = citizen because they have agreed to live under the laws of the USA.

Mere birth by two unlawful people in the USA has not been decided.

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Trump reportedly plans to sign an executive order to terminate birthright citizenship [View all] nitpicker Oct 2018 OP

Another constitutional crisis?! sakabatou Oct 2018 #1

Another distraction before the election Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #39

Yep YessirAtsaFact Oct 2018 #87

So if two green-carders have a baby nitpicker Oct 2018 #2

The law MosheFeingold Oct 2018 #45

I guess green carders, not being citizens, can't give birth to a U S citizen. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #54

If they are legally here treestar Oct 2018 #86

Wow.. what a crazy big distraction... woundedkarma Oct 2018 #3

My thought exactly... the act of a desperate racist. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #79

No doubt there will be Scarsdale Oct 2018 #4

Like Colin Powel? n/t sarge43 Oct 2018 #18

I immediately thought about the Russian women who come here to have babies Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #35

A friend of mine worked as a translator NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #57

he says he can, barbtries Oct 2018 #5

there are some far right whack a doos who argue that dsc Oct 2018 #15

No he cannot. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #44

It isn't clear zipplewrath Oct 2018 #69

Someone cited an 1898 case where a passport was revoked from a U.S. born Chinese individual BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #78

"he says" should be translated as, "he lies". ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #49

i believe the troops are being sent to the border. barbtries Oct 2018 #53

Oh, my! Is he going to waiver the Russian women coming here to have their anchor babies? allgood33 Oct 2018 #6

He can't overrule the Constitution! flyingfysh Oct 2018 #7

He can't be allowed to get away with this. christx30 Oct 2018 #42

Not exactly MosheFeingold Oct 2018 #62

That will be thrown out so quick that heads will spin. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #8

Unlesss there's a grandfather clause. underpants Oct 2018 #9

14th Amendment BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #10

And who will throw it out? The Supreme Court? The "Stacked" Supreme Court? johnnyfins Oct 2018 #13

Um no they are going to throw out a clear violation of the 14th Amendment BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #14

Obama underpants Oct 2018 #19

Joe Madison had a caller and had a brief discussion about it BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #22

His dad was not a citizen, but his mom was, and he was born on American soil. DFW Oct 2018 #26

Soil doesn't matter in Trump's whackadoodle idea underpants Oct 2018 #34

Executive Orders are not laws. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #43

That point has been made several times underpants Oct 2018 #85

Okay! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #90

Obama's mom was from Kansas DFW Oct 2018 #46

Interesting pint about the votes underpants Oct 2018 #84

No state can deprive a person. But can the federal gov? LiberalArkie Oct 2018 #24

An Executive order is not a "law". BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #25

But what court can/will say he is wrong LiberalArkie Oct 2018 #50

As I posted elsewhere, have all "Muslims" been banned by E.O.? BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #64

I was reading somewhere else in my insomnia this morning that LiberalArkie Oct 2018 #81

Congress had passed LAWS that restricted certain groups from immigration and citizenship BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #83

No way this is retroactive back to 1960 The Grinch Oct 2018 #88

He still cannot do that via Executive Order BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #93

I think he is that stupid. nt fleabiscuit Oct 2018 #101

Assuming the story is legit and not planted in order to distract us but cstanleytech Oct 2018 #48

" he could try to argue that its not a "law" thus he is not violating the 14th." BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #80

It wouldn't be retroactive, probably. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #58

It doesn't matter. Executive Orders are NOT "laws" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #66

Reminder: A ban was issued, ultimately, per the EO. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #70

The final version purported "ban" was NOT really a "ban" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #77

Squirrel! jpak Oct 2018 #11

absolutely. Squirrel! Squirrel! n/t ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #51

One Week Roy Rolling Oct 2018 #12

There's a Supreme Court case standing in his way. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2018 #16

No problem, now. We have a stacked S.Ct. w/two Trump loyalists. 1st time in history... Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #65

The current 5-4 SCOTUS really isn't any different from what it was before BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #72

This is 100% the work of neo-fascist Stephen Miller, they know they cannot do this by E.O. Tarc Oct 2018 #17

Yes. His news cycle was taken away due to the slaughter or potential slaughter of U.S. citizens BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #28

Be careful what you pray for . . . Roadside Attraction Oct 2018 #20

See response #65. Wednesdays Oct 2018 #96

Well, he has padded the Supreme Court TNNurse Oct 2018 #21

It's not really "padded" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #29

Just saying watoos Oct 2018 #23

Executive Orders cannot revoke laws. E.O.'s are not laws. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #30

His EO will end up in the SC. watoos Oct 2018 #33

Remember the "Muslim ban" one BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #40

DISTRACTION, total BS HAB911 Oct 2018 #27

This is an eleventh hour election stunt johnnyfins Oct 2018 #31

This +10000 bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #36

Yes it is specifically to get news cycles back before the election to gin up his deplorable base. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #41

Sign of desperation. A stunt that will not work. harun Oct 2018 #71

This is to drum up votes. Just like sending the military to the Southern border. WhoWoodaKnew Oct 2018 #32

Retroactive? agingdem Oct 2018 #37

If this stands, can we deport al MAGAts? bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #38

I think he talked about this during his campaign. So it's same ol', same ol'. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #47

This is all about isolation from other countries Perseus Oct 2018 #52

THIS!!! orangecrush Oct 2018 #100

I do not believe this story. Odoreida Oct 2018 #55

It is reported on all the news outlets. Why don't you believe it? still_one Oct 2018 #59

Is considering news outlets infallible now a loyalty test? n/t Odoreida Oct 2018 #61

Bloomberg s a reliable news source. Are you saying it is fake news? still_one Oct 2018 #92

No, he did say this. It's being reported in the news, and I heard the video of him... Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #63

does that mean that the orange asshole is going deport himself? Javaman Oct 2018 #56

Where are the "strict constitutionalists" when we need them. Watching Jerry Springer. walkingman Oct 2018 #60

Whether true or not, I love the political timing of the release of this rumor. nt MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #67

So, the birthright pResident wants to terminate birthright citizenship. yellerpup Oct 2018 #68

I don't care how Republican videohead5 Oct 2018 #73

I almost wish he would write such an executive order. vlyons Oct 2018 #74

Wow, that would make me not a citizen spinbaby Oct 2018 #75

Me too. n/t Brainstormy Oct 2018 #76

Dotard Don doesn't know how to write a law bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #82

Thank you for that citation BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #94

You are welcome! bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #97

Got that sucker up in a browser tab! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #98

Ivana Trump was undocumented. dawg day Oct 2018 #89

Obviously gave this as much "thought" as his zero-tolerance policy Snellius Oct 2018 #91

Same story, from CNN: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2018 #95

This is to gin up the base and claim to have "fulfilled his promises". BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #99

He is sending troops to protect the frontier. Cold War Spook Oct 2018 #102