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Sun Feb 3, 2019, 01:03 PM

62. So you agree with Trump. There were fine people on both sides in Charlottesville?

Before you read below, this one line alone destroys your argument: I can't read his mind, so I don't know what was in his head or heart. Or Prince Harry. Bingo! We don't know, so we have to err on the side of caution.

Many of those tiki torch guys were 25 or younger. Were they fine people? All we know is that many of them that were there were simply dressed for the occasion according to you. Perhaps this was just their first time and they went because a friend suggested it. Since simply being a 25 year old grown man and wearing the "garb" can fall under the category of young and stupid, then you agree with Trump.

Meanwhile, you clearly don't care very much about the visceral reaction it gives African Americans and you are ready to excuse it because it doesn't affect you. And it is clearly more important for you to defend the behavior and make excuses for it rather than recognize the effect it has on the victims of the behavior. Sadly, I can accept it not being important to you. Ignoring it is one thing. But you are going out of your way to defend it and make excuses for it. That's where I have to question your motives. Do you have family members or friends who are in the KKK? Did some of them not know how serious the "garb" was and dressed like this for Halloween? Did you?

As for your Prince Harry argument, give me a break. Ted Bundy, who was treated like a commodity by the public, the media, and the judges (how disgraceful is that?), had a girlfriend while he was raping and killing women. He married a woman and had a child with her while he was in custody. He was still a brutal rapist and murderer who raped and killed over 30 young women and at least one 12 year old girl. It is not safe to say he wasn't a rapist and murderer of women just because he had a girlfriend and married a woman. It is not safe to say Prince Harry is not a bigot just because he married a mixed woman. In case you didn't know, she's both white and black. She's not black, unless black is no longer associated with race and is now simply a color. If that's the case, many Indian, Latin American, and Persian people are now black. (side note: Barack Obama was our first mixed President. He's not black either.)

To further the point of associations with black people not being enough, many slave owners had intercourse with their black slaves. You can't get any closer than having intercourse with a person. But how can you be a slave owner and not be a bigot? Sarah Palin had sex with a black basketball player in college. I'm pretty sure she's a bigot.

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