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matt819

(10,749 posts)
16. What an idiot
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:24 PM
Feb 2019

Jewish politicians have a hard time separating Jewishness from Israel. I'm about ten years younger than Nadler, and I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and went to Hebrew school (both not far from Nadler's). It was simply a given that Jewish = Israel and vice versa. When the various Jewish organizations knocked on our door to solicit donations, my parents gave money (not a lot - I think my father's salary at the time was around a whopping $10,000) and happily put the "I gave to the (fill in the blank)" sticker on the door. We celebrated Israel's National Day. That's just the way it was.

I suspect many Jews my age have left the fold - I left many, many years ago and count on my religious sibling to remind me of the holidays and to tell me what I should and shouldn't eat - though I'm sure many have stayed, and I'm doubly sure than any Jewish politician must - repeat, must - adhere to the equations noted above in their interactions with the Jewish community.

So, I understand where Nadler and other Jewish congresspeople are coming from, even the ones not from New York.

The "What an Idiot" in the title applies to the fact that they and Omar (and Ellison) are in the same party. It's not as if they will never meet or that they will never serve on the same committee. It is highly likely that their votes will overlap more than they will differ. It's not as if Omar, Ellison, and the other handful or non-Jewish and non-Christian members of Congress are from vastly different educational or social backgrounds. They are all well educated, professionals, and all were freely and fairly elected to Congress.

What I'm saying is, skip the public attacks. Talk to each other. I'm not suggesting a kumbaya moment, just talk and listen. It's not as if the Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus in the Democratic party are going to somehow stage a coup or form an anti-Jewish or anti-Christian coalition or caucus. Sure, they'll find that they disagree, but it may just stop the ad hominem attacks.

Yes, Nadler is a long-term politician and powerful in his own right as a result. Again, I'm not suggesting that all Democrats should or are going to agree on everything, but differences such as those highlighted by Nadler's comments, are perfect wedge opportunities for Republicans and, dare I say it, Russians. Someone - Pelosi? - needs to step in and sort this out before it gets out of hand.

She's right. And whether it's pro-Israel, pro-Saudi, or pro-Niue doesn't matter in the least. sandensea Feb 2019 #1
I agree, watoos Feb 2019 #2
+1 sandensea Feb 2019 #3
No, she's not leftynyc Feb 2019 #5
AIPAC clearly represents a foreign interest wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #13
There is a HUGE difference leftynyc Feb 2019 #19
So you *are* going to engage in semantics football wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #20
Hey, if you consider the LAW leftynyc Feb 2019 #21
And nobody was talking about illegal activities wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #22
Those calling AIPAC a leftynyc Feb 2019 #24
+1 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #25
AIPAC has a priority saidsimplesimon Feb 2019 #52
Actually America and Israel first wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #55
She is questioning the loyalty of Congressional Jews, and some seem to have blinders on to that still_one Feb 2019 #33
VERY disturbing leftynyc Feb 2019 #34
+1 sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #18
Israel is well known to try to interefere in our elections, and regularly conducts espionage against getagrip_already Feb 2019 #4
Thank you Rep. Nadler! You speak for me, and many Democrats! tritsofme Feb 2019 #6
Same here leftynyc Feb 2019 #7
Yes, and it is absolutely disgusting. tritsofme Feb 2019 #10
You've been here almost as long leftynyc Feb 2019 #11
Same here RelativelyJones Feb 2019 #30
THAT IS STUPID. lancelyons Feb 2019 #31
Has she ever uttered, posted, or written anything anti-semitic? RVN VET71 Feb 2019 #8
She's only been in the national public eye for about a month. George II Feb 2019 #12
Rubbish. GeorgeGist Feb 2019 #9
If anyone could recognize anti-Semitism it is Jerrold Nadler. George II Feb 2019 #14
Nadler Uses Too Broad Of A Brush Here DallasNE Feb 2019 #15
What an idiot matt819 Feb 2019 #16
Agreed on the public arm-twisting BeyondGeography Feb 2019 #29
Israel's far right interests, watoos Feb 2019 #17
Quite the public smackdown madville Feb 2019 #23
Thanks Rep. Nadler. Call out these anti-Semitic tropes wherever they come from. RelativelyJones Feb 2019 #26
Leave it to DEMS to undermine their own good fortune. Unbelievable. lancelyons Feb 2019 #27
Calling out a pro israel group is NOT anti semitic. That is crazy. lancelyons Feb 2019 #28
Implying that people support Israsel leftynyc Feb 2019 #36
thats BULL CRAP. You can call out a lobbying group for paying off congress and its not anti semitic lancelyons Feb 2019 #42
The Israel Leader Benjamin Nentayahu is TERRIBLE... He has very bad ideas. lancelyons Feb 2019 #43
Bet all you want leftynyc Feb 2019 #44
She did not say Jews doing something as a result of getting paid. She said congress was doing thing lancelyons Feb 2019 #45
She's wrong about that also leftynyc Feb 2019 #46
BS its a lobbying firm and they spend alot to lobby the US Congress. lancelyons Feb 2019 #47
3.7 million is PEANUTS leftynyc Feb 2019 #49
You seem to be defending AIPIC quite well. lancelyons Feb 2019 #50
No, you're not an anti semite leftynyc Feb 2019 #53
That is my point. Im not sure from Omar's tweets that somebody can say they are anti semitic. lancelyons Feb 2019 #54
You can't understand leftynyc Feb 2019 #56
I dont see it and you are connecting DOTS that I dont believe she said. lancelyons Feb 2019 #48
It's so unusual to see so many Democrats rushing to the defence of OnDoutside Feb 2019 #32
Glad someone else noticed that. old guy Feb 2019 #35
How about supporting OUR leadership leftynyc Feb 2019 #37
Where did I say that ? OnDoutside Feb 2019 #39
Leftynyc is definitely defending AIPIC alot here. lancelyons Feb 2019 #51
If she's going to paint herself as the anti-Israel Muslim politician eissa Feb 2019 #38
The bigger issue is her frequently retweeting Glenn Greenwald tweets. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #40
Now on the other hand, if she made up conspiracy theories about George Soros... ck4829 Feb 2019 #41
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