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magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
19. The Liberty was clearly flying an American flag from its tallest mast...
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:17 PM
Feb 2019

The Israeli pilots dove down into very near the ship to bombard its decks. The American ship sent multiple radio signals identifying itself as an American vessel in international waters with no intent to cause anyone any harm.

It may have been intercepting radio signal traffic but that is not against international laws while in international waters of permissible ship travel.

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On 2 October 2007, The Chicago Tribune published a special report[7] into the attack, containing numerous previously unreported quotes from former military personnel with first-hand knowledge of the incident. Many of these quotes directly contradict the NSA's position that it never intercepted the communications of the attacking Israeli pilots, saying that not only did transcripts of those communications exist, but also that it showed the Israelis knew they were attacking an American naval vessel.

Two diplomatic cables written by Avraham Harman, Israel's ambassador in Washington, to Abba Eban, Israel's minister of foreign affairs, have been declassified by Israel and obtained from the Israel State Archive. The first cable, sent five days after the attack, informs Eban that a U.S. informant told him (Harman) that there was "clear proof that from a certain stage the pilot discovered the identity of the ship and continued the attack anyway."[14] The second cable, sent three days later, added that the White House is "very angry" because "the Americans probably have findings showing that our pilots indeed knew that the ship was American."[7]

Documents of the Israeli General Staff meetings, declassified in October 2008, show no discussion of a planned attack on an American ship.[101]

On 30 October 2014, Al Jazeera English broadcast a documentary film containing recent first-hand accounts by several survivors of the incident.[102] The documentary argues that Israel knew the ship was American, and planned to blame its sinking on Egypt in order to draw the US into the war on the Israeli side.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

You have to stand up to illegal territorial land grabs. hack89 Feb 2019 #1
Sure, I understand that..but like so many things stumpy gets involved in... Maxheader Feb 2019 #2
Funny the same did not apply to Israel when,... magicarpet Feb 2019 #3
A big difference, it was during an active war, a war I might remind some where Egypt, Syria, Jordan, still_one Feb 2019 #4
I have never fully grasped what happened. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #16
The Liberty was clearly flying an American flag from its tallest mast... magicarpet Feb 2019 #19
NSA documents. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #24
This is the real danger with this administration, to start a war thinking it will unite the country still_one Feb 2019 #5
Did you think that when President Obama did it? GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #10
President Obama was sane and I literally mean that. Trump is NOT. still_one Feb 2019 #14
Well, I can't disagree there! GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #15
and I don't disagree with that. My problem is the person in charge, and his negotiating still_one Feb 2019 #17
Wow! Agreement on DU! GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #18
the sky is falling!!!!!!!! still_one Feb 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author soryang Feb 2019 #6
I would not like to be crewing one of those ships LawnKorn Feb 2019 #7
Imagine crewing some Philippine fishing trawler in those waters. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #8
They're both less than 20 years old. sl8 Feb 2019 #9
You are right, I was thinking of DD-963 LawnKorn Feb 2019 #13
These are new ships hack89 Feb 2019 #12
Not only that but; jayfish Feb 2019 #27
I spent a lot of time in the WESTPAC hack89 Feb 2019 #28
I'd be proud to once again serve aboard a US Tin Can. denbot Feb 2019 #32
It is fun when you are 23 LawnKorn Feb 2019 #33
I am certain there was outrage when we did the same under President Obama. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #11
China is the only nation that recognizes its claim GatoGordo Feb 2019 #20
Or Republicans claiming to be intelligent. Lord Magus Feb 2019 #22
I am a certified astronaut True Dough Feb 2019 #26
A little more data....2/9/19 Maxheader Feb 2019 #23
That's a recitation of a Washington Post article from October, 2018. sl8 Feb 2019 #31
Good for the US Navy. MicaelS Feb 2019 #25
This is a necessary move and the blame for causing this danger rests on China this time. Sapient Donkey Feb 2019 #29
Hopefully Trump doesn't try to do anything outside the norms, though. That's always a concern.." Maxheader Feb 2019 #30
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