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NY State may well save the day in terms of holding the Trumpsters accountable hlthe2b Feb 2019 #1
What's the secret to avoiding the double-jeopardy trap? lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #2
A. Don't be a fucking criminal like Manafort. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #5
Charge them after the pardon for same offense (like tax fraud). louis c Feb 2019 #7
I should have asked more clearly: How does Vance avoid being blocked by that NYS law? lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #9
Vance can avoid the double jeopody law by charging after pardon... louis c Feb 2019 #11
That's not exactly true. If it were the issue with the New York law would never have come up. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2019 #18
A pardon is forgiveness for the crime, but it does not erase it tinrobot Feb 2019 #31
Try this article Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #14
Very good! (1) Cooperate with Mueller on prosecutions (2) Distinguish State from Federal crimes lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #24
One way could be to charge him with crimes that the feds declined to pursue as cstanleytech Feb 2019 #26
New York is one of few states that consider federal charges when protecting the defendant against.. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #10
Charge Manafort with a different crime. Note that federal tax evasion and state tax evasion are PoliticAverse Feb 2019 #20
Charging different crimes leftynyc Feb 2019 #21
Cyrus Vance let Junior & Ivanka skate after getting a campaign contribution, also Harvey Weinstein, RockRaven Feb 2019 #3
Yes NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #22
That's precisely WHY he's doing this leftynyc Feb 2019 #23
Whatup, Paulie, ya Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #4
There is no income tax in Florida louis c Feb 2019 #8
Thank you, louis- nt Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #13
They were discussing this on Bloomberg this morning indicating that NY has to proceed carefully to still_one Feb 2019 #6
media hype..... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #12
It wasn't click bait, it was on Bloomberg network, and he wasn't trying to create a "horse race". still_one Feb 2019 #15
But Trump can only pardon federal crimes whether or not the person was actually charged. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #25
The issue as I understand it is.. getagrip_already Feb 2019 #28
My thought is there are plenty of crimes to go around, nt stopwastingmymoney Feb 2019 #35
One would say an embarrassment of crimes....... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #36
NYS's own constitution forbids double jeopardy prosecutions for the same federal and state crime.. Princess Turandot Feb 2019 #30
Of course no one talks about how inappropriate a presidential pardon is for these crimes elias7 Feb 2019 #16
Kick dalton99a Feb 2019 #17
In other words, NY has our back Maeve Feb 2019 #19
Plus, Mueller had him admit to crimes not charged, which are also state crimes. tableturner Feb 2019 #27
Um, why wouldn't they file the charges regardless? brooklynite Feb 2019 #29
I'd let him go if we could nail the tRUMP family with his help. SayItLoud Feb 2019 #32
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #33
Weren't we talking about Gamble v The United States a while back? Isn't it on SCOTUS' docket? ancianita Feb 2019 #34
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