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In reply to the discussion: New York Has Prepared Paul Manafort Charges If Trump Pardons Him [View all]tinrobot
(10,883 posts)31. A pardon is forgiveness for the crime, but it does not erase it
...a pardon is as if you were never charged with the crime.
Incorrect. The crime stays on the record, however, the prison time is not served. Joe Arpaio found this out.
Manafort could be charged on crimes not pursued by Mueller, which are many, as well as the ones that were charged but not completed because of the hung jury.
Incorrect. The crime stays on the record, however, the prison time is not served. Joe Arpaio found this out.
Manafort could be charged on crimes not pursued by Mueller, which are many, as well as the ones that were charged but not completed because of the hung jury.
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New York Has Prepared Paul Manafort Charges If Trump Pardons Him [View all]
Julian Englis
Feb 2019
OP
I should have asked more clearly: How does Vance avoid being blocked by that NYS law?
lagomorph777
Feb 2019
#9
That's not exactly true. If it were the issue with the New York law would never have come up. n/t
PoliticAverse
Feb 2019
#18
Very good! (1) Cooperate with Mueller on prosecutions (2) Distinguish State from Federal crimes
lagomorph777
Feb 2019
#24
One way could be to charge him with crimes that the feds declined to pursue as
cstanleytech
Feb 2019
#26
New York is one of few states that consider federal charges when protecting the defendant against..
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#10
Charge Manafort with a different crime. Note that federal tax evasion and state tax evasion are
PoliticAverse
Feb 2019
#20
Cyrus Vance let Junior & Ivanka skate after getting a campaign contribution, also Harvey Weinstein,
RockRaven
Feb 2019
#3
They were discussing this on Bloomberg this morning indicating that NY has to proceed carefully to
still_one
Feb 2019
#6
It wasn't click bait, it was on Bloomberg network, and he wasn't trying to create a "horse race".
still_one
Feb 2019
#15
But Trump can only pardon federal crimes whether or not the person was actually charged.
Cold War Spook
Feb 2019
#25
NYS's own constitution forbids double jeopardy prosecutions for the same federal and state crime..
Princess Turandot
Feb 2019
#30
Of course no one talks about how inappropriate a presidential pardon is for these crimes
elias7
Feb 2019
#16
Plus, Mueller had him admit to crimes not charged, which are also state crimes.
tableturner
Feb 2019
#27