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Submariner

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13. I have no objection to Israel seizing the high ground, the Heights, it only makes sense
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 05:24 PM
Mar 2019

Just its tactics.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but I do believe the surviving sailors on the Liberty who were clearly visible as U.S Navy and targeted.

New revelations in attack on American spy ship from 2007

Bryce Lockwood, Marine staff sergeant, Russian-language expert, recipient of the Silver Star for heroism, ordained Baptist minister, is shouting into the phone.

"I'm angry! I'm seething with anger! Forty years, and I'm seething with anger!"

Lockwood was aboard the USS Liberty, a super-secret spy ship on station in the eastern Mediterranean, when four Israeli fighter jets flew out of the afternoon sun to strafe and bomb the virtually defenseless vessel on June 8, 1967, the fourth day of what would become known as the Six-Day War.

For Lockwood and many other survivors, the anger is mixed with incredulity: that Israel would attack an important ally, then attribute the attack to a case of mistaken identity by Israeli pilots who had confused the U.S. Navy's most distinctive ship with an Egyptian horse-cavalry transport that was half its size and had a dissimilar profile. And they're also incredulous that, for years, their own government would reject their calls for a thorough investigation.

"They tried to lie their way out of it!" Lockwood shouts. "I don't believe that for a minute! You just don't shoot at a ship at sea without identifying it, making sure of your target!"

Four decades later, many of the more than two dozen Liberty survivors located and interviewed by the Tribune cannot talk about the attack without shouting or weeping.

Their anger has been stoked by the declassification of government documents and the recollections of former military personnel, including some quoted in this article for the first time, which strengthen doubts about the U.S. National Security Agency's position that it never intercepted the communications of the attacking Israeli pilots -- communications, according to those who remember seeing them, that showed the Israelis knew they were attacking an American naval vessel.

The documents also suggest that the U.S. government, anxious to spare Israel's reputation and preserve its alliance with the U.S., closed the case with what even some of its participants now say was a hasty and seriously flawed investigation.

more here:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html

The decision to seize the Golan Heights resulted in the attack on the USS Liberty Submariner Mar 2019 #1
It is convenient for some to forget that prior prior to the 67 war, the surrounding Arab countries still_one Mar 2019 #4
Israeli intelligence was totally wrong about the USS Liberty. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #6
Oh spare me this conspiracy theory bullshit leftynyc Mar 2019 #7
I have no objection to Israel seizing the high ground, the Heights, it only makes sense Submariner Mar 2019 #13
That sailor can believe leftynyc Mar 2019 #15
When the Palestinians and the United Nations first recognize the Annexation, no_hypocrisy Mar 2019 #2
This has nothing to do with the Palestinians. Syria lost the Golan Heights, from which they were still_one Mar 2019 #10
Point taken. no_hypocrisy Mar 2019 #16
I was just trying to say the Palestinians have a different situation, one which has to be addressed, still_one Mar 2019 #17
Just another reason for my user name A Former Republican Mar 2019 #3
I'll just leave this here: Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #5
But now donnie is looking for Jewish votes leftynyc Mar 2019 #8
No doubt about it, he will try to use it as a wedge issue, but anyone who has any knowledge of the still_one Mar 2019 #9
They're trying but it wont work with those leftynyc Mar 2019 #11
"Mr. Netanyahu, who is facing a tough challenge" BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #12
I support this for one very obvious reason ripcord Mar 2019 #14
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