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karynnj

(59,501 posts)
22. No one in the US government during the Obama years said Iran was a good guy
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:59 AM
Apr 2019

In fact, it is because they identified Iran as a bad guy, that they worked so hard to preclude Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Remember that your hero, Bibi Netanyahu constantly made the point that they were months (as low as 2) from having one.

The Iran nuclear deal very publicly addressed JUST getting a nuclear weapon. Many sanctions levied for other reasons by the US remained in effect. The stated reason was that a comprehensive solution was not then in the cards. As it was, it was dificult to get the nuclear deal we did -- where Secretary Moniz, an MIT professor of nuclear energy, led in developing the monitoring program. Even Israel's military and intelligence agreed that it was better for Israel because it meant that Iran would not suddenly get a nuclear weapon.

Yes, I know it is unpopular with Israel and that BiBi fought it as hard as he could. In retrospect, that was not because he genuinely believed that did not effectively make it much less likely for Iran to get a nuclear weapon, but because it made war against Iran less likely. It is pretty well documented that before 2015, BiBi wanted to bomb Iran ... and even better if it was the US that did so.

As it was, while Obama was President, it was Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States that blew up every ceasefire the UN or US tried to get on Yemen. Iran actually cooperated. The MAIN source of Islamic violence - including AQ and ISIS - comes out of the extreme form of the Sunni branch of Islam.

and then when the stock market tanks he can blame the fed again, and people won't notice still_one Apr 2019 #1
That pretty much sums it up. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #2
agreed. We have an imbecile in the WH still_one Apr 2019 #3
Of course he could have investors/friends who specialize in shorting too. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #4
waivers granted to the five main buyers - China, India, Japan, South Korea and Turkey - would expire muriel_volestrangler Apr 2019 #5
Ugh. Japan and South Korea. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #7
So let's give waivers to the big guys and only harm the little countries? PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #10
No. The waivers are being taken away from the big guys. former9thward Apr 2019 #18
One day we will see how much money Donald Trump and Jared Kushner make from the Saudi's mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2019 #6
Easy peasey. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #8
It's Iran MosheFeingold Apr 2019 #9
Then we shouldn't be buying from the Saudis since 9/11 n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #11
Sounds great MosheFeingold Apr 2019 #23
It's the hypocrisy that's the problem n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #28
ISIS and Al Qaeda are Sunni, and funded by Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait IronLionZion Apr 2019 #13
"Your oil money" MosheFeingold Apr 2019 #24
No one in the US government during the Obama years said Iran was a good guy karynnj Apr 2019 #22
"Remember that your hero, Bibi Netanyahu" MosheFeingold Apr 2019 #25
Why do you want to punish Iran so much? TheRealNorth Apr 2019 #26
I'm Jewish too but I am in agreement with J Street karynnj Apr 2019 #27
I was shocked to find out how much dumpy is hated in Iran. louis-t Apr 2019 #12
Sanction allies. The russian sanctions, don't bother enforcing. Mc Mike Apr 2019 #14
How bout this stumpy... Maxheader Apr 2019 #15
And the dotard tries to alienate out allies further Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #16
Oil spikes to 6-month high after Trump crackdown on Iran riversedge Apr 2019 #17
Current crude oil prices from BBC nitpicker Apr 2019 #19
Ugh. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #20
Not working well with North Korea and not gonna work well with Iran.... SayItLoud Apr 2019 #21
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