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BumRushDaShow

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38. The whole point of "hearings"
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:47 PM
Apr 2019

is to put people "on the record" (whether formally under oath or not). And it adds to the pile of things they use to formulate any articles if they choose to go that route.

And re: this -

It's also directly related to Mueller's investigation and he had access to Prince's testimony to Congress. If he didn't prosecute for it, then it's not likely that a partisan DOJ would... but also unlikely that we would get much traction insisting that DOJ prosecute something he declined to.


Here is an interesting analysis done just today -

Could Erik Prince be in perjury trouble?
Schiff: House panel will seek criminal referral for Erik Prince

By Aaron Blake
April 30 at 12:25 PM


<...>

What it means

It’s worth noting that the bar for perjury is high and that Mueller’s investigation concluded without indicting Prince. But former federal prosecutor Patrick Cotter said that that doesn’t necessarily mean Mueller didn’t think there was a case to be made. He noted that Prince’s alleged perjury came in congressional testimony and not to Mueller’s team. “This may be an example of something Mueller felt others (e.g. Congress) should pursue if they want to, like impeachment,” Cotter said in an email. “My read of the report suggests just that.”

Schiff also acknowledged Tuesday that Prince spoke with Mueller under the terms of an unspecified proffer agreement, which sometimes insulates people from being charged based upon their statements. (This wouldn’t apply to false statements in previous congressional testimony, but it would mean Prince’s statements to Mueller couldn’t be used to make the case.)

But even if there is a case to be made, that doesn’t mean it will be. Attorney General William P. Barr has suggested it’s time to turn the page on the Mueller probe, which bodes well for Prince.

If a case of perjury was brought, it would be one of the highest-profile prosecution cases to come out of the Mueller probe. Prince is the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and a

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/30/could-erik-prince-be-perjury-trouble/?utm_term=.ed3bed41a2e9


I.e., people like Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Manafort, et. al., were charged with directly lying to DOJ (the FBI, pleading guilty as part of plea deals), so in this case with a "lying before Congress", it goes a slightly different direction that he may not have felt was under his scope - just like the "obstruction" piece was not under his scope, nor was Cohen's bagman duties, which is why all those cases were pawned off to DOJ "entities" (SDNY and EDVA). It's a shame that there are so many moving pieces (literally a tangled web) with this mess that I think Mueller decided to stick with the mandate but left enough out there for further work, and there was quite a bit that was redacted with the excuse that it was an "active investigation" so who knows? I know Stone's mess is still out there (I think the trial is scheduled for November).

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Big deal, watoos Apr 2019 #1
They are going through the "process" BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #2
+1 2naSalit Apr 2019 #3
It will also help to establish what is needed BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #6
As you say. Thanks for the article. Hortensis Apr 2019 #19
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #44
The process will take us beyond the election. watoos Apr 2019 #7
No it won't BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #8
Didn't SCOTUS NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #11
Not the original one. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #12
Yes... it probably will FBaggins Apr 2019 #26
This process is just getting started BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #29
The process for Congress is already over FBaggins Apr 2019 #30
The process of Congress BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #31
What does that have to do with anything? FBaggins Apr 2019 #32
OFFS. But they CAN impeach Drumpf BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #33
Still not relevant to the OP FBaggins Apr 2019 #35
This part BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #36
Again... it just doesn't work that way FBaggins Apr 2019 #37
The whole point of "hearings" BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #38
This Truly Evil Man Deserves any Punishment McKim Apr 2019 #40
If Barr doesn't proceed he will have to give a valid reason why he doesn't. George II Apr 2019 #23
Perfect Jumpty Apr 2019 #4
YES MFGsunny Apr 2019 #5
Isn't this lying twit living in another country, and wanting to bring mercenaries into Venezuela turbinetree Apr 2019 #9
It's all for the BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #10
Isn't that the truth..........................Thanks for the song you nailed it.................. turbinetree Apr 2019 #13
It is what it is BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #14
That still is amazing........................ turbinetree Apr 2019 #15
It's all for the BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #16
Yes, that is correct................................ turbinetree Apr 2019 #18
Sure with Prince could get napped for something--anything!! riversedge Apr 2019 #17
What's the penalty? SHRED Apr 2019 #20
I would suppose it would depend on any plea deals they might work BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #21
Annnnd.....do we REALLY expect THIS (in)Justice Dept. to investigate it??!? lastlib Apr 2019 #22
Prince, "that the meeting happened by chance." 1,000 miles off the coast of Africa in the middle .. Botany Apr 2019 #24
Can the bastard go to prison with his twisted sister? CaptYossarian Apr 2019 #25
I agree with the two-fer BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #27
Take 'em DOWN. One by one. I doubt they could do a mass house-cleaning. calimary Apr 2019 #28
K&R demmiblue Apr 2019 #34
Lock him up!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #39
Schiff needs to do this, of course, Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #41
To whom does Congress make the referral? Texin Apr 2019 #42
Prince Erik Has Been Dirty for Decades - Lock Him Up! dlk Apr 2019 #43
You mean I might live long enough to see this war criminal meet Mrs Karma? cp Apr 2019 #45
Betting that the Seychelles Meeting won't be all that's in the referral ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #46
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