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Sancho

(9,067 posts)
27. People Control, Not Gun Control
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:39 AM
Jun 2019

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
Oh, he's one of those qanon types... Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #1
And now a deceased qanon type jpak Jun 2019 #2
All these fuckers fantasizing about... MicaelS Jun 2019 #3
Want to buy a Qanon rifle cheap? Aristus Jun 2019 #4
Nope, I no longer own guns. MicaelS Jun 2019 #5
No need to elaborate. I've never owned guns. Aristus Jun 2019 #6
Ha! paleotn Jun 2019 #15
PICTURED: 'Former soldier' shot dead by police after he 'opened fire on Dallas federal courthouse we Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #7
Something does not seem right with this picture SkatmanRoth Jun 2019 #11
I think he cosplayed at being in the armed services too blogslut Jun 2019 #12
I don't think you are. marble falls Jun 2019 #14
If the Mail story above is correct, he was only in for a year and a half OnlinePoker Jun 2019 #16
Tacticool to the max blugbox Jun 2019 #18
My guess would be Incel Joe Nation Jun 2019 #8
That was my first impression Sucha NastyWoman Jun 2019 #10
Here he is in a threesome: Scurrilous Jun 2019 #13
fuckin bronies Demonaut Jun 2019 #17
That's an anime dakimakura, (Japanese animation body-pillow) Archae Jun 2019 #19
ok, that looked like an horse ear on the pillow Demonaut Jun 2019 #20
Kinda hard to pull the trigger with those metal gloves on, isn't it? Nice polished crotchpiece. NBachers Jun 2019 #21
Its been hand polished. And so has the crotch. marble falls Jun 2019 #23
Did he wear protection while humping his manga pillow. alfredo Jun 2019 #28
Incel? CHECK... 4chan? CHECK... Obsessed with guns and anime? CHECK Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #9
Like I posted in another thread, 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #22
Indeed ck4829 Jun 2019 #24
So that was the storm that QAnon is always going on about? ck4829 Jun 2019 #25
The storm coming, or as 45 calls the present moment, the calm before the storm Tanuki Jun 2019 #26
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Jun 2019 #27
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Jun 2019 #29
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