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cstanleytech

(26,084 posts)
23. It isn't about fair its about legal.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 08:05 PM
Apr 2020

Did the owner have a valid license of the car? If yes then there would be no cause to be pulled over.
If they did not have a valid license though the odds are that its going to cause the officer to probably pull the car over simply to make sure that whoever is behind the wheel of the vehicle has a valid license.

I see nothing wrong with randomly running plates. docgee Apr 2020 #1
But he didn't. Part of his stop was running a plate for no NO reason. There was no ... marble falls Apr 2020 #3
That's what I'm saying. docgee Apr 2020 #5
No, this case isn't about "running plates". There is no question as to the legality of that. PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #29
It's an unreasonable search. That's what it is. Laelth Apr 2020 #31
No, read the dissent. The case isn't about the legality of "runnng plates"... PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #35
Either way. Laelth Apr 2020 #48
So all 8 that ruled opposite of Sotomayer were wrong? MichMan Apr 2020 #36
Obviously, Justice Sotomayor and I are in error. Laelth Apr 2020 #46
Then you and I are in excellent company with Justice Sotomayer. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #58
Cheers! n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #61
That's not really the problem, and they do that all the time ... (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #4
Running the plates is not the issue unblock Apr 2020 #7
What? Lol docgee Apr 2020 #9
but it's just a hunch. there's zero evidence of it. unblock Apr 2020 #10
So the police need evidence before they do an investigation to find evidence. docgee Apr 2020 #11
presumably you're making wildly different assumptions, unblock Apr 2020 #14
I disagree. EndlessWire Apr 2020 #70
re: "So the police need evidence before they do an investigation to find evidence." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2020 #72
Driving a car which is owned by someone with a suspended license is probable cause docgee Apr 2020 #74
Wrong sir. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2020 #75
Wrong docgee Apr 2020 #77
You're a good person discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2020 #79
not any time they feel like it, any time they reasonably think the driver is illegal oldsoftie Apr 2020 #32
The legal requirement is "reasonable suspicion", is it reasonable to suspect PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #55
That's the key point of disagreement in the dissent unblock Apr 2020 #59
Yes, justices Kagan and Ginsburg argued that it's reasonable to assume the car owner is likely PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #38
But it might not be treestar Apr 2020 #52
But part of running plates is to make sure a car is currently legal to be driven on the cstanleytech Apr 2020 #18
The plate check is not the issue unblock Apr 2020 #19
But that is just it once the plate was run then the officer knows the owner cannot be the driver and cstanleytech Apr 2020 #20
That's ridiculous unblock Apr 2020 #22
Well I will point out that the only judge that dissented was Sotomayor so clearly the other liberal cstanleytech Apr 2020 #26
Haven't read the opinion but I seriously doubt they used that argument unblock Apr 2020 #28
I do not know what argument they used either but seeing as cstanleytech Apr 2020 #33
Even liberals get it wrong sometimes. From the article: unblock Apr 2020 #42
You could use that argument for random executions rooboy Apr 2020 #12
I don't think he was arrested until the officer found out he was the owner. docgee Apr 2020 #13
getting pulled over requires probable cause unblock Apr 2020 #16
Not always as I was pulled over once when I got my only speeding ticket cstanleytech Apr 2020 #21
"They pulled you over" is legally an arrest. unblock Apr 2020 #24
No it is NOT an arrest. Where do you get this from? oldsoftie Apr 2020 #37
It's an arrest because you are not free to leave: unblock Apr 2020 #44
"technically". Not "actually". Being detained is not the same as being arrested. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #60
You aren't Rebl2 Apr 2020 #62
See above, legal definition vs. lay definition. unblock Apr 2020 #66
I don't disagree with the substance of what you're saying unblock Apr 2020 #65
It is something treestar Apr 2020 #53
There are some here who think that this was a fair bust, it wasn't. The deputy was 'fishing'. marble falls Apr 2020 #2
That's what I was going to say. procon Apr 2020 #6
It isn't about fair its about legal. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #23
You make a good point; just because something isnt fair doesnt mean its illegal. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #40
STYLED as Kansas v. Glover, not stylized. marybourg Apr 2020 #8
I never heard of that usage...what does "styled" mean in this context? CTyankee Apr 2020 #30
The name that's given to a lawsuit, marybourg Apr 2020 #50
Thanks! CTyankee Apr 2020 #68
Its been corrected when i clicked on it oldsoftie Apr 2020 #43
This ruling involves "license plate scanning". JohnnyRingo Apr 2020 #15
Lots of people say "if you haven't done anything wrong, what's wrong with an investigation." Igel Apr 2020 #17
No it's not about the scanning itself it's about whether the information gleaned from the scanning PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #54
Well, I certainly have no problem with the erosion of my rights, or yours for that matter. warmfeet Apr 2020 #25
I am sick of seeing our 4th Amendment rights eroded. Laelth Apr 2020 #27
Sonia Sotomayor was right to dissent. FM123 Apr 2020 #34
Hear! Hear! n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #51
I agree Rebl2 Apr 2020 #64
One guess as to the driver's race. intheflow Apr 2020 #39
She is in the wrong, as evidenced by being the 1 of an 8-1 Tarc Apr 2020 #41
Police run plates all the time while on patrol.... the_sly_pig Apr 2020 #45
People aren't supposed to drive on a revoked license. MichMan Apr 2020 #47
They should be reminded that they set precedents liberal N proud Apr 2020 #49
I am the voice of error LaelthsDaughter Apr 2020 #56
+1 n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #57
Regardless of the issue, it is always heartening to see a Steelrolled Apr 2020 #63
Justice Sonia Sotomayor has become the most liberal member of the SC Polybius Apr 2020 #67
I wouldn't even call this ruling particularly liberal. Calista241 Apr 2020 #73
Clearly there are valid arguments on both sides. The decision suggests that Sotomayor Nitram Apr 2020 #69
Brava Madame Justice discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2020 #71
I'll trust RBG, even on a bad day. Hoyt Apr 2020 #76
I need to apologise to everyone on this post. docgee Apr 2020 #78
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