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Steelrolled

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20. The thing about Sweden is they are not doing this for the benefit of the planet
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 04:16 PM
Apr 2020

but for their own benefit. They believe this is the best plan for them. It could be arrogance on their part, or group-think on the part of everyone else.

We might never know with 100% confidence whether they made the best choice, however we may have a good idea. Even if it works out "ok" in Sweden, it doesn't mean the plan would work in other countries. But it might allow leaders to think more freely about their options, next time around, or even in the later states of the current pandemic.

Regarding Sweden's capacity for an outbreak, this often-cited article shows them near the bottom of the EU regarding ICU beds - don't know how accurate it is.

https://www.politico.eu/article/charting-europes-capacity-to-deal-with-the-coronavirus-crisis/

Good god.. don't they know what's going on in the Cha Apr 2020 #1
Thanks for the link. Yes, it looks like we're repeating history. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #3
Those who fail to learn, DarthDem Apr 2020 #4
And, the 1918 one was personal for me.. Cha Apr 2020 #5
Oh wow. Yes, I heard the second wave in the winter of 1919 killed more. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #6
My grandmother was Cha Apr 2020 #9
Glad folks in Kapaa are taking it seriously. Good for that bus driver! SunSeeker Apr 2020 #28
I agree that people are not taking it serious enough ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #17
Parts of SD county are super conservative. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #29
Both El Cajon zip codes are ranked ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #30
That figures! nt SunSeeker Apr 2020 #31
My paternal Grandfather also died from the 1918 flu. He was about 33 my mother about 10. katmondoo Apr 2020 #10
Wow.. I'm so sorry, katmondoo. It's Cha Apr 2020 #11
Off topic, but I hadda do this Worried2020 Apr 2020 #15
Aloha, Worried2020.. Mahalo for Cha Apr 2020 #39
aha - "Kaua'i" - yeah - I peeked . . . . Worried2020 Apr 2020 #44
Peeking is allowed! Yes, we're out here in the middle Cha Apr 2020 #49
Sadly, the USA learns little, even from their own history Worried2020 Apr 2020 #55
lol.. your "brain cells" seem Cha Apr 2020 #57
The sinister thing is that they do know and are Politicub Apr 2020 #34
k & r n/t w0nderer Apr 2020 #2
having the elderly pay the ultimate price is a win-win from the point of view of many beachbumbob Apr 2020 #7
Sweden! Sir Normie Apr 2020 #8
Ice floes anyone? McCamy Taylor Apr 2020 #12
Weren't these folks encouraging their young people to have more babies? IronLionZion Apr 2020 #13
I have been warning my Swedish friends about this. They respond with the false sense of superiority zonkers Apr 2020 #14
In This Case RobinA Apr 2020 #16
Boom. zonkers Apr 2020 #22
If any country was going to do this "experiment" Sweden was a good choice Steelrolled Apr 2020 #18
Its probably a good thing, looking at it purely objectively, to have this "experiment" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #19
The thing about Sweden is they are not doing this for the benefit of the planet Steelrolled Apr 2020 #20
Interesting that they are so short on beds. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #21
Yes, we have a candidate who works towards fixing and completing Universal Health Care, ehrnst Apr 2020 #26
Yup. Germany and Switzerland got great universal coverage through a hybrid ACA-like system. nt SunSeeker Apr 2020 #32
Switzerland's population voted against a change to single payer a few years ago. ehrnst Apr 2020 #33
You are misinforned. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #35
No, actually, you are incorrect in your use of that terminology. You seem to be confusing ehrnst Apr 2020 #36
The basic principle is the same. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #37
"Universal Health Care" is to "Single Payer" as "Canine" is to "Toy Poodle" ehrnst Apr 2020 #38
I can't get through simple logic. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #46
Continued attempts to avoid admitting that one is mistaken on the use of one's terminology ehrnst Apr 2020 #47
Nobody's moved any goalposts LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #50
Yes, you continue to move the goalposts, and you contintue to stonewall and attempt to derail ehrnst Apr 2020 #53
Actually, you continue to redefine the terminology and moving the goalposts. TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #48
Indeed... ehrnst Apr 2020 #54
Reminds me of this from The Doors: George II Apr 2020 #40
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2020 #43
I have no respect for Sweden...they allowed people to die without trying to save lives...I am Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #23
It ain't over yet. Steelrolled Apr 2020 #25
Per capita, they're doing even worse than the US NickB79 Apr 2020 #27
Sweden drank the Kool Aid. BlueIdaho Apr 2020 #24
I agree rockfordfile Apr 2020 #51
Sweden has a history of eugenics practices 1936-1975 as appalachiablue Apr 2020 #41
And like here, immigrants, people of color are more affected since they live in dense housing. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #42
Yes, people of color are so heavily impacted; I'd forgot that appalachiablue Apr 2020 #45
Elderly pay price in Sweden. Here, it's the young, and the generation to come. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #52
Here, everyone is paying the price. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #56
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