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In reply to the discussion: University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions [View all]pnwmom
(108,925 posts)1. But these tests don't test critical reasoning. The SAT is mostly a vocabulary and reading test
along with math through Algebra and Geometry.
The ACT includes some subject matter tests also. But why is that better than looking at assessing their transcripts?
Several studies have suggested that grades may be a better measure of college success than test scores are. One by the University of Chicago Consortium on School Research found that high school grades correlated strongly and consistently with college graduation, while the correlation between graduation and ACT scores was weak.
Another study by researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, questioned the conventional wisdom that standardized tests are more reliable than grades from schools of different quality. It found that high-school grade point average was consistently the best predictor of cumulative college grades and graduation.
Another study by researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, questioned the conventional wisdom that standardized tests are more reliable than grades from schools of different quality. It found that high-school grade point average was consistently the best predictor of cumulative college grades and graduation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/sat-act-uc-lawsuit.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article
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But these tests don't test critical reasoning. The SAT is mostly a vocabulary and reading test
pnwmom
May 2020
#1
You're conflating the fitness of the SAT and ACT admissions tests with the general public's lack of
Yavin4
May 2020
#3
They thought it worked as a "brand," since they decided calling it an "Aptitude" test
pnwmom
May 2020
#11
Therein lies the problem. Note these tests are owned by private companies and it's all about money.
onetexan
May 2020
#29
spend your entire high school yrs playing w/your phone in class and can't pass the SAT?
msongs
May 2020
#4
Who wants to pay higher education money when you can't go to the higher education campus?
Initech
May 2020
#5
I learn more off well-selected YouTube and Open Culture than I did in most college courses
bucolic_frolic
May 2020
#17
So now we are saying the only thing SAT and ACT measured is White cultural bias and vocabulary?
Ford_Prefect
May 2020
#18
The SAT and ACT was the only way I got into college as a non diagnosed dyslexic in '69.
marble falls
May 2020
#19