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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
12. Let's stop talking about statues.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jul 2020

This is a Trump diversion. Don't follow him. Nod thoughtfully and change the subject to THE PANDEMIC. PUTIN PAYING FOR THE MURDERS OF OUR SOLDIERS AND TRUMP NOT CARING.

Cultural issues are devised by the GOP and have been for decades to divide us and force Americans into opposition to their own best interests. Let's not do it.

The whole statue thing will turn out some way or another. Trump can bloviate and rant as much as he wants, and it won't save one person in the ICU on a ventilator.

EYES ON THE PRIZE:
Public health
Public education
Healthcare for all.

Extended unemployment benefits.
Help for every small business-- not loans, grants-- that will keep employees paid.

Start planning for big expenditures on green technology and retrofitting every office building and commercial building in the country with Covid-resisting air systems.

Most important, none of this can happen until Trump is out of office.

He wants us distracted defending some stupid statue or some crowd trying to take down the stupid statue. Let's just focus on what will save lives.


Disagree on the Columbus ones but it's probably smart politics. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #1
If you want to sell out indigenous people for the chance at a few Trump supporters, maybe. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2020 #2
It's long past time for them to be educated about facts and human decency. JudyM Jul 2020 #5
I doubt it's just a few Trumpers. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #15
Pragmatism at the expense of Indigenous people. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2020 #20
It's winning at the expense of losing. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #24
Exactly. Focus on winning the WH and both houses of Congress. If that is accomplished, then still_one Jul 2020 #40
+1 Win and then educate the public. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #70
Oh please....always trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #64
De las Casas Drahthaardogs Jul 2020 #58
I believe the term savages is also in the Declaration of Independence delisen Jul 2020 #23
What Color Would You Like to Call the Sky in Your World? Stallion Jul 2020 #75
If you have a logical argument I am open to listening n/t delisen Jul 2020 #77
Your Argument Doesn't deserve a Rational Response Because You are Out on an Island of One Stallion Jul 2020 #78
As none of us are going to hand our property to them, the rightful owners, Kaleva Jul 2020 #59
Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #3
Why does it end with Confederate statues? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2020 #18
Because That Is As Far As Wide Popularity Goes, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #45
Excellent and accurate summation. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #60
Agreed mjvpi Jul 2020 #22
And Given the Tight Time Budgets Of News Coverage, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #46
I disagree with it to...but why is it smart politics? I miss that point. usaf-vet Jul 2020 #8
Because most Americans aren't against Columbus. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #19
In 2017 police brutality didn't result in massive demonstrations. mjvpi Jul 2020 #25
Well find me a newer poll that shows different results & I'll change my view. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #27
Watch for one after Biden's statement. mjvpi Jul 2020 #34
I'm not fighting. I'm going off facts that exist right now. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #50
Bleh. PTWB Jul 2020 #61
This isn't a progressive/conservative issue. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #62
He shouldn't say anything at all. PTWB Jul 2020 #65
He was asked a question. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #66
It didn't really come across as that flatfooted when he said it soothsayer Jul 2020 #4
Public property should not be toppled by mobs Loki Liesmith Jul 2020 #6
Because that "process" has worked out so well in the past for Indigenous People. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2020 #16
I'm about Joe's age. They lied to us about Columbus. raging moderate Jul 2020 #7
If they were a president and the statue is of their presidency then GemDigger Jul 2020 #9
IMO it's about the confederate traitor statues and name changes... brush Jul 2020 #10
Columbus not in the same league as Washington and Jefferson RussBLib Jul 2020 #11
built this country? apparently Jefferson built it on the backs of slaves. delisen Jul 2020 #28
So how far do you want to take this? ripcord Jul 2020 #57
as far as it needs to go. delisen Jul 2020 #73
Let's stop talking about statues. dawg day Jul 2020 #12
+1 Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #14
Yes, and while we're at it Lulu KC Jul 2020 #30
Hear Hear, Sir! The Magistrate Jul 2020 #47
The good that Washington & Jefferson did outweighs the bad. Columbus? Not so much. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #13
He's technically correct. Scurrilous Jul 2020 #17
Why should Indigenous peoples put any faith in the white man's process? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2020 #21
Biden was #2 guy in the Obama administration: Scurrilous Jul 2020 #38
He didn't say we should stop agitating. He said that certain monuments should be protected. Politicub Jul 2020 #76
We know Biden is a "split the difference" guy. That's just a given. LisaM Jul 2020 #26
I believe he went on to say Lulu KC Jul 2020 #29
... Scurrilous Jul 2020 #43
Well, this is something Mr. Biden and I will disagree about Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #31
It won't be popular, but I agree with Biden 100% Polybius Jul 2020 #32
I don't agree with with regards to Columbus rockfordfile Jul 2020 #33
Does this mean I have to change my vote sarisataka Jul 2020 #35
Las Casas is not denouncing Columbus or his relatives ucrdem Jul 2020 #36
I agree that Columbus' statue should come down, marie999 Jul 2020 #37
Biden would be wise to sit out "statue-gate" and let Agent Orange take all the heat flibbitygiblets Jul 2020 #39
The OP article says he was asked. ucrdem Jul 2020 #41
I think the Sopranos did an episode about this. Scurrilous Jul 2020 #42
Van Zandt: "You take down one of our heroes, we'll take down one of yours " Marcuse Jul 2020 #54
I can remember when he was Miami Steve Van Zandt. Scurrilous Jul 2020 #55
Thank you. qwlauren35 Jul 2020 #80
You are more than welcome. Marcuse Jul 2020 #81
Biden was asked - what do you think he should have done? Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #63
Smart and reasonable position by Joe. Steelrolled Jul 2020 #44
Maybe reverse psychology Bayard Jul 2020 #48
totaly agree with Biden, the only shame we have are with Confederate monuments beachbumbob Jul 2020 #49
The confederate statues are there to celebrate people who believed in owning other people, still_one Jul 2020 #51
What about lincoln? milestogo Jul 2020 #52
Has there been much discussion about tearing down Lincoln statues? Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #68
Yes. milestogo Jul 2020 #69
Ahhh damn. Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #79
What about FDR? ripcord Jul 2020 #72
University of Wisconsin Jimbo S Jul 2020 #82
You know there will be non nude statues of a President Trump erected somewhere someday. Marcuse Jul 2020 #53
Washington and Jefferson, sure, but "Goodbye, Columbus"... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #56
Interesting he included Columbus in there. Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #67
Columbus should come down but Biden is Right Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #71
AGREED!!!! This is not to say that new places cant be found for them and/or other Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #74
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