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paleotn

(17,911 posts)
45. Bingo. That's one aspect of this tragedy....
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:07 AM
Nov 2020

Empty ICU beds, empty OR suites, etc. are money drains, not profit drivers. And the metrics aren't just occupied resources, it's also how fast they can turn those resources. How many patients they can push through those hospital beds, ICU wards, OR suites and fancy OB facilities. People who need medical services or they'll fucking die are simply metrics, numbers, profit drivers. The system is leaned out for maximum profit, like a goddamn potato chip factory. Thus, the inevitable epidemic of a deadly pathogen overwhelms the system. They knew this was coming. They simply chose, for financial reasons, not to prepare. Our system is obscene. And Covid-19 rips away the vale of "market driven medicine" to show how truly evil it is. It's ironic that no one expects our military to turn a profit every year. It's a necessary service for our public good they say. But whether our citizens live or die miserably? Oh, that' different.

Wait until 2021 and 2022 for the gigantic wave of bankruptcies from medical bills for people who required acute care during this crises. This herculean effort by our healthcare system isn't being done for free or on the cheap. The legacy of Covid-19 will live well past the time we bring it under control.

No, "WE" did not blow it... BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #1
+1 n/t orleans Nov 2020 #3
THIS Talitha Nov 2020 #7
Agree 100%! duforsure Nov 2020 #36
Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #37
EXACTLY. LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #46
+1 chowder66 Nov 2020 #51
Absofuckinglutely. Dave Starsky Nov 2020 #52
Yes Yes Yes.... diverdownjt Nov 2020 #53
Exactly! And they're still not doing what needs to be done. And so simple. Un-f'ing believable. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #71
From Ronald Klain On January 30,2020 DallasNE Nov 2020 #72
I'm certainly no expert, notinkansas Nov 2020 #2
That sums it up. PSPS Nov 2020 #4
It's not just the senate. It's a lot of Republican governors, too. unblock Nov 2020 #5
Sure they would. The residents of the state would be getting regular federal assistance checks. PSPS Nov 2020 #12
That makes way too much sense unblock Nov 2020 #28
How can anyone think that keeping a plague from spreading is a political question? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #57
Oh lord...you don't live in a red state jmowreader Nov 2020 #58
Complete lockdown? former9thward Nov 2020 #48
States that imposed lockdowns notinkansas Nov 2020 #64
Overall there has been no significant difference in infections and death rates former9thward Nov 2020 #68
I agree that essential workers shouldered an enormous notinkansas Nov 2020 #69
It's not as though this is the only country experiencing PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #6
Really? Aussie105 Nov 2020 #18
Australia and New Zealand are not the entire rest of the world. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #24
Ok! Aussie105 Nov 2020 #27
Australia is an island nation. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #31
The difference is in the mentality of the populace Blues Heron Nov 2020 #38
The Aussies seem to be for what is better for the country, like banning guns. LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #43
??? llashram Nov 2020 #49
Didn't your biggest states - NSW & Victoria BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #34
You might want to read up on exactly what Australia and New Zealand have done (and are doing)... rooboy Nov 2020 #40
Yes exactly... diverdownjt Nov 2020 #61
Since I don't think a lockdown is in the cards ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #8
Herd immunity is a pipe dream... AZ8theist Nov 2020 #13
Not to mention that people get reinfected. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #14
Then there might not be from a vaccine either mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #59
I agree, and the vaccine will need lots of takers. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #60
Doesn't matter if it's a pipe dream ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #15
I didn't say 60% of the people tested Lebo, .. AZ8theist Nov 2020 #19
I didn't say you said that, I said there's a flaw in that math. mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #22
oh, ok, I get ya. I was only using the known infections number from the dashboard. AZ8theist Nov 2020 #29
"don't actually know how close we are to having 60% of the popular exposed and (in theory) immune." BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #35
Another thing about herd immunity. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #26
I'm not actually trying to claim that 'that's going to work' without vaccinations mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #56
If herd immunity were a real thing, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #32
however, we already know the infection fatality rate is about 0.9% LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #47
Confirmed cases is 11 million, total cases are more HermitageHermit Nov 2020 #55
The death rate can only go up. Aussie105 Nov 2020 #20
I don't believe it's accurate to say that it can ONLY go up ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #25
Learnt nothing from the Spanish Flu pandemic? Aussie105 Nov 2020 #30
Not to mention the collateral damage. When ICUs get swamped... Dave Starsky Nov 2020 #54
Yes, this! When ICUs get swamped.... Withywindle Nov 2020 #75
Umm, no. We know exactly what's going to happen, given the actions or inaction of politicians.... paleotn Nov 2020 #42
Oh I know we're fucked and yes it's mathematical, but ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #62
herd immunity?? llashram Nov 2020 #50
Well, that'll happen when idiots dismiss scientists as "elitist." Grokenstein Nov 2020 #9
Toxic masculinity run amok. magicarpet Nov 2020 #10
Have you read this? BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #16
No,... had not seen it,... magicarpet Nov 2020 #17
Reason number 3,467 paleotn Nov 2020 #44
Males kinda suck honestly ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #63
The devil's greatest trick was convincing people he didn't exist... and that COVID was no big deal. Beartracks Nov 2020 #11
The Trump/Pence personal death count keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #21
America, I cry for thee. Aussie105 Nov 2020 #23
Thanx a lot Donny you just had to fire the people or disband all the organizations that would ... Botany Nov 2020 #33
Thankyou, Donald J. Trump: this is ALL on you. marble falls Nov 2020 #39
Where is all this insight into how DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #41
Bingo. That's one aspect of this tragedy.... paleotn Nov 2020 #45
I am surprised that we are not hearing about medical bills already. notinkansas Nov 2020 #65
I saw a tweet from a guy whose sister got a bill for BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #73
Yikes. notinkansas Nov 2020 #74
Thank you DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #67
Actually, humanity blew it 1plus1equals1 Nov 2020 #66
Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #70
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