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Dave Starsky

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54. Not to mention the collateral damage. When ICUs get swamped...

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 11:48 AM

Nov 2020

That cold you had that could turn into pneumonia is very likely to kill you, when it wouldn't have before.

That's not conjecture. That's how it works.

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'We blew it': U.S. reaches 'explosive' COVID-19 spread as virus is nearly impossible to control [View all] Larissa Nov 2020 OP

No, "WE" did not blow it... BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #1

+1 n/t orleans Nov 2020 #3

THIS Talitha Nov 2020 #7

Agree 100%! duforsure Nov 2020 #36

Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #37

EXACTLY. LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #46

+1 chowder66 Nov 2020 #51

Absofuckinglutely. Dave Starsky Nov 2020 #52

Yes Yes Yes.... diverdownjt Nov 2020 #53

Exactly! And they're still not doing what needs to be done. And so simple. Un-f'ing believable. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #71

From Ronald Klain On January 30,2020 DallasNE Nov 2020 #72

I'm certainly no expert, notinkansas Nov 2020 #2

That sums it up. PSPS Nov 2020 #4

It's not just the senate. It's a lot of Republican governors, too. unblock Nov 2020 #5

Sure they would. The residents of the state would be getting regular federal assistance checks. PSPS Nov 2020 #12

That makes way too much sense unblock Nov 2020 #28

How can anyone think that keeping a plague from spreading is a political question? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #57

Oh lord...you don't live in a red state jmowreader Nov 2020 #58

Complete lockdown? former9thward Nov 2020 #48

States that imposed lockdowns notinkansas Nov 2020 #64

Overall there has been no significant difference in infections and death rates former9thward Nov 2020 #68

I agree that essential workers shouldered an enormous notinkansas Nov 2020 #69

It's not as though this is the only country experiencing PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #6

Really? Aussie105 Nov 2020 #18

Australia and New Zealand are not the entire rest of the world. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #24

Ok! Aussie105 Nov 2020 #27

Australia is an island nation. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #31

The difference is in the mentality of the populace Blues Heron Nov 2020 #38

The Aussies seem to be for what is better for the country, like banning guns. LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #43

??? llashram Nov 2020 #49

Didn't your biggest states - NSW & Victoria BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #34

You might want to read up on exactly what Australia and New Zealand have done (and are doing)... rooboy Nov 2020 #40

Yes exactly... diverdownjt Nov 2020 #61

Since I don't think a lockdown is in the cards ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #8

Herd immunity is a pipe dream... AZ8theist Nov 2020 #13

Not to mention that people get reinfected. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #14

Then there might not be from a vaccine either mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #59

I agree, and the vaccine will need lots of takers. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #60

Doesn't matter if it's a pipe dream ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #15

I didn't say 60% of the people tested Lebo, .. AZ8theist Nov 2020 #19

I didn't say you said that, I said there's a flaw in that math. mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #22

oh, ok, I get ya. I was only using the known infections number from the dashboard. AZ8theist Nov 2020 #29

"don't actually know how close we are to having 60% of the popular exposed and (in theory) immune." BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #35

Another thing about herd immunity. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #26

I'm not actually trying to claim that 'that's going to work' without vaccinations mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #56

If herd immunity were a real thing, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #32

however, we already know the infection fatality rate is about 0.9% LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #47

Confirmed cases is 11 million, total cases are more HermitageHermit Nov 2020 #55

The death rate can only go up. Aussie105 Nov 2020 #20

I don't believe it's accurate to say that it can ONLY go up ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #25

Learnt nothing from the Spanish Flu pandemic? Aussie105 Nov 2020 #30

Not to mention the collateral damage. When ICUs get swamped... Dave Starsky Nov 2020 #54

Yes, this! When ICUs get swamped.... Withywindle Nov 2020 #75

Umm, no. We know exactly what's going to happen, given the actions or inaction of politicians.... paleotn Nov 2020 #42

Oh I know we're fucked and yes it's mathematical, but ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #62

herd immunity?? llashram Nov 2020 #50

Well, that'll happen when idiots dismiss scientists as "elitist." Grokenstein Nov 2020 #9

Toxic masculinity run amok. magicarpet Nov 2020 #10

Have you read this? BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #16

No,... had not seen it,... magicarpet Nov 2020 #17

Reason number 3,467 paleotn Nov 2020 #44

Males kinda suck honestly ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #63

The devil's greatest trick was convincing people he didn't exist... and that COVID was no big deal. Beartracks Nov 2020 #11

The Trump/Pence personal death count keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #21

America, I cry for thee. Aussie105 Nov 2020 #23

Thanx a lot Donny you just had to fire the people or disband all the organizations that would ... Botany Nov 2020 #33

Thankyou, Donald J. Trump: this is ALL on you. marble falls Nov 2020 #39

Where is all this insight into how DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #41

Bingo. That's one aspect of this tragedy.... paleotn Nov 2020 #45

I am surprised that we are not hearing about medical bills already. notinkansas Nov 2020 #65

I saw a tweet from a guy whose sister got a bill for BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #73

Yikes. notinkansas Nov 2020 #74

Thank you DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #67

Actually, humanity blew it 1plus1equals1 Nov 2020 #66

Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #70