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Hortensis

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20. Oh, I don't know that all the changes have been tragic.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 11:36 AM
Mar 2021

We don't cut off the lips of particularly offensive liars and noses of adulterous women. (Or was it vice versa?) Not that all tribes were into mutilation certainly, but none do it now. And if someone did try to reinstate those old-timey values in his family, modern medicine would be able to rebuild their faces, so that's also kind of a nice thing.

Apparently, though, indigenous tribes mostly did get the idea of chattel slavery from us. Although other forms of slavery were normal in North Amerca before the advent of Europeans, the idea of selling their slaves as commodities really picked up once Europeans provided markets where captives from tribal warfare, unwanted whomevers, and escaped black slaves could be sold for money.

But as for being absolutely sure the tribe would never develop or extract from this land, give them a break. These are PEOPLE. Real people who think real-people thoughts, do real-people things, and have real-people needs. Like feeding and sending real kids to college, and other sacred duties.

Just for one reality, casino gambling is the single most successful source of income for tribes in general. The Apaches may not be as dependent on casinos as some other tribes are, but internet gambling is posing a real threat to the economic futures of those that are. What next?

Good! The copper mining companies have been polluting the water tables for generations ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #1
I have seen the lunar landscapes produced by copper mining. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2021 #8
I know - it is disgusting ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #9
yeah................ turbinetree Mar 2021 #2
Yes! niyad Mar 2021 #3
But jobs... that's always what they say to justify anything like this captain queeg Mar 2021 #4
There can be more jobs... Happy Hoosier Mar 2021 #16
Good!! Owl Mar 2021 #5
Horah! Oak Flat is a completely unique and irreplaceable gem. royable Mar 2021 #6
Yes - if you walk up the top of the cliff (called Apache Leap) ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #10
I was born in Superior in 1945. My parents moved soon after, MineralMan Mar 2021 #17
My dad grew up in Superior, my mom was born in Globe ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #21
All of the times I visited Superior in the 50s and 60s, you could tell MineralMan Mar 2021 #23
One thing about the water ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #24
I wouldn't be surprised if it's turned into a suburb for Phoenix. MineralMan Mar 2021 #25
Yes, there's not much beyond that ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #26
Give the land to the tribe. CanonRay Mar 2021 #7
Talk about putting Native Americans in charge ArizonaLib Mar 2021 #11
Giving the land to the tribe was actually what was in my mind royable Mar 2021 #12
What if they decided to monetize it? Hortensis Mar 2021 #13
"they"? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2021 #14
Well, the money in that land could transform the lives of many. Hortensis Mar 2021 #15
That's their prerogative. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2021 #18
Tragically, white people money and values have been transforming Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #19
Oh, I don't know that all the changes have been tragic. Hortensis Mar 2021 #20
I live right down the road from an Apache rez. Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #22
I have and gave no opinions as to what they should or will do. Hortensis Mar 2021 #27
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