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(15,385 posts) Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:54 PM Mar 2021

Joe Manchin pledges to block Biden's infrastructure bill if Republicans aren't included [View all]

Source: Yahoo News

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), America's ultimate swing voter, told me on "Axios on HBO" that he'll insist Republicans have more of a voice on President Biden's next big package than they did on the COVID stimulus.

The big picture: Manchin said he'll push for tax hikes to pay for Biden's upcoming infrastructure and climate proposal, and will use his Energy Committee chairmanship to force the GOP to confront climate reality.

Manchin, 73, said Biden expects, and understands, the pushback: "He's the first president we've had to really, really understand the workings of the Senate since LBJ."

Manchin said that with just a few concessions, it would have been possible to get some Republicans on the COVID relief package that passed the Senate this weekend on a party-line vote. And he said he'll block Biden's next big package — $2 trillion to $4 trillion for climate and infrastructure — if Republicans aren't included.

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/joe-manchin-pledges-block-bidens-120433439.html

He's always been a moderate to conservative Democrat, but lately has done a plethora of things that we disagree with him on. I'm worried that he may be thinking of switching...

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Joe Manchin pledges to block Biden's infrastructure bill if Republicans aren't included [View all] Polybius Mar 2021 OP

Does he not get that Republicans have no intention to vote for any of it jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #1

I think you are correct. Trust_Reality Mar 2021 #34

Especially if Manchin will "push for tax hikes". muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #54

What it's about DownriverDem Mar 2021 #72

They don't need infrastructure in West Virginia? McKim Mar 2021 #81

The Governor said the roads True Blue American Mar 2021 #87

I don't think pushing for tax hikes would help him in West Virginia muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #83

So why bdamomma Mar 2021 #97

The article title doesn't accurately reflect what he said. pnwmom Mar 2021 #60

True, but they have had 11 years and refused to negotiate on anything. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #65

A month gives Manchin a chance to say, "Oh well, we tried." n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #68

... jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #69

Exactly.... radical noodle Mar 2021 #71

We've been bringing it up and being shut down for 11 years. At this point, I would say 2 days is too jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #73

I'm worried that he may be thinking of switching... LenaBaby61 Mar 2021 #2

Indeed. We could definitely use Franken in the Senate. nt PatrickforB Mar 2021 #44

Why would he switch? leftieNanner Mar 2021 #61

Make him irrelevant in 2022. TDale313 Mar 2021 #3

+1 Lokee11 Mar 2021 #51

"Make him irrelevant in 2022." LenaBaby61 Mar 2021 #105

For me, the infrastructure bill should be sold as JOBS JOBS JOBS asiliveandbreathe Mar 2021 #4

Agreed. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2021 #9

Absolutely agree -- this is a Job's bill and nothing else Lettuce Be Mar 2021 #32

When researching the building of the Hoover/Boulder Dam asiliveandbreathe Mar 2021 #47

WTF 😳 live love laugh Mar 2021 #5

Manchin says he needs 30 days to work with "My" Republicans. efhmc Mar 2021 #6

Okay I will ask how long has he been in the senate with these same republicans turbinetree Mar 2021 #86

Also if we had waited for his 30 days, Americans would not be getting any relief for another month efhmc Mar 2021 #112

Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Mar 2021 #113

Huh? Ollie Garkie Mar 2021 #7

He will go from headlines to being a nobody if he switches parties. CrispyQ Mar 2021 #8

If I was Biden I'd Try To Make A Deal With Governor Justice Me. Mar 2021 #10

But of course he does! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2021 #11

I dont' think he'd switch, because then he'd be irrelevant. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2021 #12

There are a lot of people who want to see bipartisanship. Politicub Mar 2021 #19

I'm 72 wryter2000 Mar 2021 #49

Nancy Pelosi was asked when politics in America turned into what it is today. OMGWTF Mar 2021 #79

I was just looking up the passage of the civil rights acts in the 60's wryter2000 Mar 2021 #92

That is when this shit started.. Newt (serve your dying wife divorce papers in hospital) and DeLay Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #99

I was a couple of years out of high school during the early Clinton era Politicub Mar 2021 #100

I would never suggest the Clinton years were golden wryter2000 Mar 2021 #106

I need to learn more about that time. I know about the Politicub Mar 2021 #107

The infrastructure bill will be a huge windfall for the states, Politicub Mar 2021 #13

They will call it Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #66

Pretty full of himself these days Bayard Mar 2021 #14

Sinema seems to be more of a dada-ist. Politicub Mar 2021 #22

He definitely likes the attention. Texin Mar 2021 #40

Just a few concessions my @ss. Nt BootinUp Mar 2021 #15

Is Manchin naive or just stupid? Republicans will do everything they can to stop... brush Mar 2021 #16

He doesn't strike me as the sharpest mind in the Senate wryter2000 Mar 2021 #93

Why do you assume he wants what you or any other democrat wants? quakerboy Mar 2021 #109

Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football no_hypocrisy Mar 2021 #17

Or Lucy beats up on the ball, punctures and flattens it first. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2021 #41

Where does it say he will block the infrastructure bill? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #18

You do understand republicans don't want inclusion, rignt? brush Mar 2021 #24

So that means he's going to block the bill? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #26

Are you new to this? The repulicans whole game is to oppose... brush Mar 2021 #30

You do know that Manchin isn't a Republican right? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #37

He said he will block the bill if Republicans aren't involved. marie999 Mar 2021 #50

Where? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #52

Axios on HBO. marie999 Mar 2021 #55

Find the quote AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #57

Simple WHITT Mar 2021 #20

This does create an interesting question EarlG Mar 2021 #21

Hey Manchin, try talking with RepuQlicans, see how well it goes Wild blueberry Mar 2021 #23

give repubs enuff graft, corruption, and theft opportunities and they will support infrastructure msongs Mar 2021 #25

Did I just hallucinate the dozens of "infrastructure weeks" we had during *'s reign of terror? flibbitygiblets Mar 2021 #27

This headline is a little misleading. Calista241 Mar 2021 #28

Yes, it's not only misleading but it's a bit hysterical, he "pledged" to block any bill? No... George II Mar 2021 #35

Don't you know, "Don't bash Democrats" doesn't apply if you are from a red state nt AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #38

I believe infrastructure CAN be done through reconciliation. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #111

JHC. Just switch parties already, or are you a mole?? Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #29

Because that will get an infrastructure bill through... nt AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #39

Which party does Manchin think he belongs to? Joe Nation Mar 2021 #31

Who writes headlines these days (not you, the Yahoo guy)? Manchin didn't "pledge"...sheesh... George II Mar 2021 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Mar 2021 #36

And Not The Dems? Me. Mar 2021 #43

In some ways that is the silver lining for him running under the D banner LiberalLovinLug Mar 2021 #59

"he, and the other conservative Dems" left-of-center2012 Mar 2021 #62

Yeah, well, I don't succumb to the "new normal" LiberalLovinLug Mar 2021 #78

2009 taught us the Reich Wing will never vote for any Democratic idea kairos12 Mar 2021 #42

Stop playing politics and do your job Marthe48 Mar 2021 #45

While, like many on here, I am not particularly thrilled with Sen. Manchin, PatrickforB Mar 2021 #46

He can't be that stupid matt819 Mar 2021 #48

Ha! wryter2000 Mar 2021 #53

STOP Hating on Manchin! mezame Mar 2021 #56

I would like to remind Manchin that including Republicans - "bi-partisanship" - does not mean Vinca Mar 2021 #58

I want to see a TRUE infrastructure bill; not some pork-laden bullshit. oldsoftie Mar 2021 #63

his statement needs to be parsed carefully. drray23 Mar 2021 #64

That's how I understood it as well. He wasn't declarative on making Politicub Mar 2021 #70

what a stupid statement bigtree Mar 2021 #67

He's going screwed the stimulus for broadband incentive PA_jen Mar 2021 #74

I'm a life-long peacenik, but I really want to take Joe Manchin out behind the barn OMGWTF Mar 2021 #75

Senator Byrd (D-WV) Marthe48 Mar 2021 #76

"Manchin said he'll push for tax hikes to pay for Biden's ... proposals" PSPS Mar 2021 #77

Lemme ask you folks something please.... Montauk6 Mar 2021 #80

Rather than thinking of switching I think he's just enjoying his time in the spotlight. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2021 #82

Manchin knows that the Senators from Idaho, Wyoming, Mississippi and other states that.... EarnestPutz Mar 2021 #84

Never underestimate the stupidity of Idaho's Senators. BlueIdaho Mar 2021 #85

I guess that I'm just being optimistic. I don't live in Idaho, but I can see it from my back porch.. EarnestPutz Mar 2021 #88

Howdy Neighbor! BlueIdaho Mar 2021 #110

Great. Keep fighting the good fight. Hard to imagine that the Idaho Voters who once elected..... EarnestPutz Mar 2021 #115

I think Nixon understood the Senate pretty well bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #89

If he and Biden can convince McConnell to not allow filibusters, it might have a chance jmowreader Mar 2021 #90

He needs to use a different messaging. LiberalFighter Mar 2021 #91

I nearly spit out my coffee at this line: he plans to use being chair of the Energy Comte. To FORCE niyad Mar 2021 #94

How About Red States Actually Chip In and Pay For Their Own Infrastructure modrepub Mar 2021 #95

Maybe he's got Russian money behind him, too. C Moon Mar 2021 #96

Fuck this guy NEOBuckeye Mar 2021 #98

Asshole! Killer of Radio Star Mar 2021 #101

Hey, Joe, the gqp had FOUR YEARS to put forward an infrastructure plan. Nothing. So, seriously, niyad Mar 2021 #102

Let's take the 30 days EndlessWire Mar 2021 #103

Every Democrat who is a Democrat knows it is absolutely useless to try and work with the GQP hadEnuf Mar 2021 #104

He won't switch parties rpannier Mar 2021 #108

What if they're given the opportunity to participate and refuse? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #114