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TigressDem

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71. And they only way to KNOW is to follow the FACTS wherever they lead.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:27 AM
Apr 2021

To not deny that it happens to coincide with someone's broken clock OR to worry why it does.

The FACTS are what is important.

You can buy a clock set to 5pm, with a saying "It's 5'oclock Somewhere" in order to justify getting drunk whenever you want to vs waiting for "Happy Hour" to do so. AND it's somewhat true and amusing on the surface and darkly true and sad underneath.

BUT that clock don't do diddly squat for telling time, so it isn't an effective time piece.

Reliance on science, honesty and a determination to do the best for ourselves and the greater world make DEMS the better party. When we stick to that we do great things. When we get caught up in fear and speculation, we get off track. Even me.

BUT still better to hash that out here with people who understand and make gentle course corrections.

PEACE.

If it was a virus originating here the former guy and his collaborators would have immediately brewens Apr 2021 #1
We know for a fact the virus was here before it was detected in China Warpy Apr 2021 #37
I don't remember it being proven to be here first. Do you have a link? TigressDem Apr 2021 #56
It's not that it was here first, that is a misstatement. It was here before it was identified Warpy Apr 2021 #75
Ah, that makes sense. Takes time to spot the trend and verify it is "new" TigressDem Apr 2021 #79
Really! malaise Apr 2021 #2
They didn't share the info they had which might have babylonsister Apr 2021 #4
Did they have the geonome earlier - WHO did say they released it late malaise Apr 2021 #13
But when it comes to science and genome sequencing, that takes a minute, right? TigressDem Apr 2021 #58
I am in agreement with you malaise Apr 2021 #60
Funny thing is I learn more when "fact checking" us than the other side. TigressDem Apr 2021 #62
Yes these are complex matters malaise Apr 2021 #65
Down post someone says this crises caused a new breakthrough. 24 hr genome sequencing is now a thing TigressDem Apr 2021 #66
The chinese wear masks because its mandated & they dont have a choice. onetexan Apr 2021 #26
well sure but also in China, Korea and Japan masks in public are common. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #53
+1. People seem to forget that they locked down 11 million people overnight in Wuhan dalton99a Apr 2021 #6
Your last paragraph... bingo !!! HUAJIAO Apr 2021 #7
Yup we had a nincompoop for a leader. Therein lies the problem. onetexan Apr 2021 #28
Yep malaise Apr 2021 #17
Agreed. pandr32 Apr 2021 #29
Correct, and their genome data helped the world develop vaccines IronLionZion Apr 2021 #31
And lying about everything he knew about it, proven by the Woodward tapes. Jetheels Apr 2021 #34
Do you remember... slightlv Apr 2021 #44
You mean this paper? dalton99a Apr 2021 #45
They did what they needed to do to contain the contagion locally. paleotn Apr 2021 #40
We have to stop the "if they say it, it has to be wrong" nonesense..... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #3
I agree. China likely knew much more than expressed bamagal62 Apr 2021 #30
Imagine, however, if the US had had a front line "Pandemic Response Team" . . . Journeyman Apr 2021 #5
I was wondering... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #33
+1... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2021 #43
They were very proactive about circling the world to buy up PPE supplies. Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #8
It is a valid point by Blinken, however, once the dangers of the virus were exposed to the world, JohnSJ Apr 2021 #9
No matter what info China relayed, Trump would have downplayed it NickB79 Apr 2021 #10
+1. If you see a tornado or hurricane coming, you don't want some asshole on TV telling people dalton99a Apr 2021 #46
Especially if he is the windbag whose hot air is spinning it out of control anyway. nt TigressDem Apr 2021 #59
TRUMP is the number 1 reason we are where we are... secondwind Apr 2021 #11
+1. The head of China's disease control agency personally called Robert Redfield on Jan. 3 dalton99a Apr 2021 #15
OMG sick thought.... what if the US Scientists "removed" more than themselves from the Wuhan lab? TigressDem Apr 2021 #25
That's some tinfoil-hat level nonsense right there. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #52
Yeah, and I'm not usually like that. TigressDem Apr 2021 #55
When it comes to nefarious shit and Trump, the will to do it is there. The ability... not so much. Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #68
Except that he pulled people who KNEW how to do their jobs and Dumbed US Down to make it all worse. TigressDem Apr 2021 #70
True. But it would have been harder to keep things secret had the US had scientists there observing. Freethinker65 Apr 2021 #12
+1. China's neighbors learned from the SARS fiasco and wasted no time in clamping down dalton99a Apr 2021 #36
Did the US "cooperate" on climate (which will also kill people)? Sancho Apr 2021 #14
So did the idiot in the white house at the time. George II Apr 2021 #16
Yeah, but if tRump had been able to interfere EARLIER with actually getting anything done.... TigressDem Apr 2021 #18
Total Deaths -- US 575,606 VS China 4,636 TigressDem Apr 2021 #22
Blinken is FULL of S*** nt TigressDem Apr 2021 #19
everyone can blame China llashram Apr 2021 #20
Is there even an iota of intelligence on what the situation is in China? Blues Heron Apr 2021 #21
Despite being a totalitarian communist regime, they stomped Corona Virus down. TigressDem Apr 2021 #23
What can we learn from China's response? Monitor - Test - Treat ... ASAP TigressDem Apr 2021 #24
The real death toll was probably 10X the official number for Jan-Feb 2020 dalton99a Apr 2021 #35
All of this China bashing will lead us to war. roamer65 Apr 2021 #27
I just hope the fuck they know what they did wrong last time... Maxheader Apr 2021 #32
Trump, not China, let it get 'out of hand' here in America. keithbvadu2 Apr 2021 #38
Exactly nt TigressDem Apr 2021 #57
Pot Meet Kettle ThatJustHappened Apr 2021 #39
More than enough blame to go around. paleotn Apr 2021 #41
Is Blinken a former guy hold over or something? OldCicero Apr 2021 #42
He was nominated by President Biden as Sec of State in January and confirmed MichMan Apr 2021 #47
Because he's spewing reich-wing bullshit? OldCicero Apr 2021 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #48
China was far more proactive than the USA. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #49
We'll never have another 2020, because the BEST thing we've gotten out of this ancianita Apr 2021 #51
OMG a Genomic Microwave!! The RNA CRISPR lol TigressDem Apr 2021 #64
Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #54
Why the rush by so many posters here to defend China? Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #61
Sometimes when you stand up for FACTS you stand beside an old enemy. Go figure. TigressDem Apr 2021 #63
Absolutely. The edge to gain is to know, twice a day, why and how the clock is right. ancianita Apr 2021 #67
And they only way to KNOW is to follow the FACTS wherever they lead. TigressDem Apr 2021 #71
PEACE. ancianita Apr 2021 #74
But China's initial response was not good. Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #72
"Good" is subjective and hindsite is 20-20. Jan 3-Jan 11 info shared by China are facts. TigressDem Apr 2021 #73
IF you read the full article, this could be a way to keep China in line in other areas. TigressDem Apr 2021 #69
I do think Blinken had a valid point but.... rlegro Apr 2021 #76
While China is often secretive, uncooperative, and unwilling to be transparent... Blasphemer Apr 2021 #77
This Nonsense Has to Stop erpowers Apr 2021 #78
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