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riversedge

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9. Effectivenes--66 percent for residents and 75.9 percent for employees,
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 04:26 PM
Apr 2021


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/21/health/vaccine-nursing-homes-infections.html

..........“To protect skilled nursing facility residents, it is imperative that health care providers, as well as skilled nursing facility residents, be vaccinated,” the authors of the Kentucky study wrote.

The outbreak involved a variant of the virus that has multiple mutations in the spike protein, of the kind that make the vaccines less effective. Vaccinated residents and health care workers at the Kentucky facility were less likely to be infected than those who had not been vaccinated, and they were far less likely to develop symptoms. The study estimated that the vaccine, identified as Pfizer-BioNTech, showed effectiveness of 66 percent for residents and 75.9 percent for employees, and were 86 percent to 87 percent effective at protecting against symptomatic disease.

In the Kentucky outbreak, the virus variant is not on the C.D.C.’s list of those considered variants of concern or interest. But, the study authors note, the variant does have several mutations of importance: D614G, which demonstrates evidence of increased transmissibility; E484K in the receptor-binding domain of the spike protein, which is also seen in B.1.351, the variant first recognized in South Africa, and P.1. of Brazil; and W152L, which might reduce effectiveness of neutralizing antibodies.

In Chicago, meanwhile,.....................

The authors of the Chicago study said their findings demonstrate that nursing homes should continue to follow recommended infection control practices, such as isolation and quarantine, use of personal protective equipment and doing routine testing, regardless of vaccination status..................
I hope health care facilities make vaccines mandatory. LisaL Apr 2021 #1
Beside mandatory, only half doesn't sound like much emphasis from management underpants Apr 2021 #6
There are religious exemptions to vaccines for employees OneCrazyDiamond Apr 2021 #17
But it's not just a matter of saying, "religious, go away." Politicub Apr 2021 #34
In that case, require the exempted employee wnylib Apr 2021 #36
Does believing dumbshit conspiracy theories count as religion? Beartracks Apr 2021 #37
What is the difference between them? The Mouth Apr 2021 #76
What you say to that person is: louis-t Apr 2021 #38
THIS Talitha Apr 2021 #70
Yes! Wild blueberry Apr 2021 #80
As An RN, I Can Tell You GB_RN Apr 2021 #24
I'm told by RN's here in Florida that they are not required to get the covid vaccine Native Apr 2021 #28
A lawsuit or two from families will suddenly make these facilities mandate vaccines for staff. LonePirate Apr 2021 #2
This! Don't like it..go somewhere else and work PortTack Apr 2021 #16
Many in red states refuse the vaccine . . . Lovie777 Apr 2021 #3
22 cases among those who were fully vaccinated sounds pretty scary, and a death. nt Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #4
also sounds -- a tad suspicious stopdiggin Apr 2021 #7
Virus had several mutations in it. LisaL Apr 2021 #10
yes, looks like a nasty variant-- what a nightmare LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #15
Or with older recipients. Greg K Apr 2021 #25
That's what I am worried about. I find it very alarming that fully vaccinated contracted C-19. Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #35
The vaccines don't stop you from becoming infected. Earth-shine Apr 2021 #39
No, that's not true at all. LisaL Apr 2021 #42
Not according to the scientists on CNN. Earth-shine Apr 2021 #44
I don't know what scientist are on CNN. LisaL Apr 2021 #47
Just wear a mask, okay? Earth-shine Apr 2021 #54
Well, maybe somebody else will read it. You are not going to get the last word here. LisaL Apr 2021 #73
Thanks SO much for this! ShazzieB Apr 2021 #81
No, you're describing a palliative. The definition of a vaccine is preventing infection. PSPS Apr 2021 #55
You want to split hairs on definitions? Earth-shine Apr 2021 #63
NO. You are just flat wrong about this. -(nt)- stopdiggin Apr 2021 #56
No, you are. Earth-shine Apr 2021 #62
the article you link refutes your claim stopdiggin Apr 2021 #67
You are outright lying about the article. Earth-shine Apr 2021 #69
We are discussing covid vaccines here. Not all vaccines. LisaL Apr 2021 #74
The study you cited supports what you're saying. Chakaconcarne Apr 2021 #83
Remember, that includes asymptomatic cases muriel_volestrangler Apr 2021 #71
Unacceptable Bayard Apr 2021 #5
because it's not manditory stopdiggin Apr 2021 #8
I agree with no vaccination, no job. totodeinhere Apr 2021 #51
Effectivenes--66 percent for residents and 75.9 percent for employees, riversedge Apr 2021 #9
Virus had mutations in it. LisaL Apr 2021 #11
agree. The article did not give us the nitty gritty details. riversedge Apr 2021 #19
E484K is the escape mutation speak easy Apr 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author intrepidity Apr 2021 #12
All kinds of questions intrepidity Apr 2021 #13
Also, how would you know who gave it to who womanofthehills Apr 2021 #82
I hope all these people who spread this are faced in the afterlife by the people they killed. Midnight Writer Apr 2021 #14
People need to realize REAL quick these covidiots are a menace to public health. roamer65 Apr 2021 #41
I definitely agree with those of you who said Dreampuff Apr 2021 #18
Oh dear, you mention dental offices. Susan Calvin Apr 2021 #21
And this is why I will keep wearing my mask mtngirl47 Apr 2021 #20
"The report underscores" the limits of vaccination. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #22
The report is an aberation -- and significantly misleading stopdiggin Apr 2021 #60
Being unvaccinated is irrelevant to the outbreak. progressoid Apr 2021 #26
Talk to the residents and tell them.... diverdownjt Apr 2021 #27
The vaccines need to be approved beyond emergency use nuxvomica Apr 2021 #29
I would think the nursing homes and Hospitals would be better off bluestarone Apr 2021 #30
Why were there 16 unvaccinated health care workers??? CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #31
Nursing home workers were offered vaccines, but a large number of the declined. LisaL Apr 2021 #32
Any nursing home worker refusing the vaccine without a legitimate documented medical reason totodeinhere Apr 2021 #50
Ooof, I have been feeling confident about not getting covid since I'm all vacced but this makes me Jetheels Apr 2021 #33
You are misinformed. The vaccines are designed to keep you from getting really sick or dying but totodeinhere Apr 2021 #49
I think that's a myth. The vaccines do in fact reduce infection rates. Jetheels Apr 2021 #53
Greatly reduce infection rates, but not absolutely block infection. Earth-shine Apr 2021 #65
No. A great DEAL better than just helping reduce. stopdiggin Apr 2021 #58
You have a very 'considerable' level of protection. stopdiggin Apr 2021 #59
Unvaccinated employees can be terminated once the vaccine is approved for general use. roamer65 Apr 2021 #40
Both Pfizer and Moderna have enough data to apply for full FDA approval. LisaL Apr 2021 #43
Most of us on DU are not in nursing homes FakeNoose Apr 2021 #45
yes, and I don't think most of the public realizes this. Grasswire2 Apr 2021 #52
Feds must mandate this. Caretakers weren't vaccinated at Mom's nursing home, Liberty Belle Apr 2021 #46
Remember that the vaccines are designed to prevent you from getting really sick or dying totodeinhere Apr 2021 #48
Sorry, you're wrong. The definition of a vaccine is prevents infection. PSPS Apr 2021 #57
Not according to this. totodeinhere Apr 2021 #85
Nope. Your information is not correct. stopdiggin Apr 2021 #61
No I am correct. totodeinhere Apr 2021 #86
You are correct. The people arguing with you are wrong. Earth-shine Apr 2021 #64
Thank you. There is a lot of misinformation being put out at DU on this topic. totodeinhere Apr 2021 #87
In this case, the vaccine was 95.4% Deminpenn Apr 2021 #66
Here's how Pfizer/Moderna/J&J defined infection... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #68
This is why COVID is going to be here for a long time inwiththenew Apr 2021 #72
That person must have been a super spreader. LisaL Apr 2021 #75
Yes, the protocols must be tightened up for nursing homes, and other institutions. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #77
COVID-19 is a extremely injurious, even fatal threat. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #78
Meaning that the infected person should be required to leave. Clearly. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #79
I didn't see where it said TheFarseer Apr 2021 #84
Getting vaccinated should be mandatory without exception. henbuck Apr 2021 #88
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