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In reply to the discussion: An unvaccinated worker set off an outbreak at a U.S. nursing home where most residents were immunize [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,262 posts)71. Remember, that includes asymptomatic cases
The summary from the CDC paper may express it better:
In a COVID-19 outbreak at a Kentucky SNF involving a newly introduced variant to the region, unvaccinated residents and health care personnel (HCP) had 3.0 and 4.1 times the risk of infection as did vaccinated residents and HCP. Vaccine was 86.5% protective against symptomatic illness among residents and 87.1% protective among HCP.
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7017e2.htm?s_cid=mm7017e2_w
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7017e2.htm?s_cid=mm7017e2_w
So the number of people who showed symptoms, whether residents or workers, was cut significantly more by the vaccine than those who had positive Covid tests (the vaccine effectiveness figure for positive tests, which corresponds to the 3.0 and 4.1, were 66.2% and 75.9% for residents and workers respectively). Deeper in the paper, it shows the hospitalization was cut further still - 94.4% vaccine effectiveness among residents; no workers were hospitalized, whether vaccinated or not.
Asymptomatic cases can still potentially pass on the infection (I'm not sure, but I think the current thinking is they're less likely to. For one thing, they're not coughing so much), so those figures are still important to working out subsequent spread, but the symptomatic cases are what we notice in our daily lives.
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An unvaccinated worker set off an outbreak at a U.S. nursing home where most residents were immunize [View all]
demmiblue
Apr 2021
OP
I'm told by RN's here in Florida that they are not required to get the covid vaccine
Native
Apr 2021
#28
A lawsuit or two from families will suddenly make these facilities mandate vaccines for staff.
LonePirate
Apr 2021
#2
22 cases among those who were fully vaccinated sounds pretty scary, and a death. nt
Evolve Dammit
Apr 2021
#4
That's what I am worried about. I find it very alarming that fully vaccinated contracted C-19.
Evolve Dammit
Apr 2021
#35
Well, maybe somebody else will read it. You are not going to get the last word here.
LisaL
Apr 2021
#73
No, you're describing a palliative. The definition of a vaccine is preventing infection.
PSPS
Apr 2021
#55
I hope all these people who spread this are faced in the afterlife by the people they killed.
Midnight Writer
Apr 2021
#14
People need to realize REAL quick these covidiots are a menace to public health.
roamer65
Apr 2021
#41
Any nursing home worker refusing the vaccine without a legitimate documented medical reason
totodeinhere
Apr 2021
#50
Ooof, I have been feeling confident about not getting covid since I'm all vacced but this makes me
Jetheels
Apr 2021
#33
You are misinformed. The vaccines are designed to keep you from getting really sick or dying but
totodeinhere
Apr 2021
#49
Unvaccinated employees can be terminated once the vaccine is approved for general use.
roamer65
Apr 2021
#40
Feds must mandate this. Caretakers weren't vaccinated at Mom's nursing home,
Liberty Belle
Apr 2021
#46
Remember that the vaccines are designed to prevent you from getting really sick or dying
totodeinhere
Apr 2021
#48
Thank you. There is a lot of misinformation being put out at DU on this topic.
totodeinhere
Apr 2021
#87
Yes, the protocols must be tightened up for nursing homes, and other institutions.
BobTheSubgenius
Apr 2021
#77