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57. I belleive he also said threatening others

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:13 AM

Apr 2021

And he didn't actually say they should be shot. The full force of the state could simply mean being arrested and prosecuted.

In this case Ashli Babit, in addition to participating in a mob that had already grievously injured police officers (and killed one, but since they've ruled it natural causes for some reason, I'll just leave it at grievously injured), threatened members of congress, and attempted to subvert a democratic election. Oh yeah, and destroyed property. She was violently breaking into an area where members of congress were being protected. She ignored warnings to stop. At that point she is a clear and present danger and shooting her was an act of both self-defense and the defense of the lives of elected representatives.

She was not shot for vandalism. She was shot for threatening lives and subverting democracy.

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U.S. Capitol Police to Be Sued for $10 Million for Killing Unarmed Rioter [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP

She paid for the ticket to ride Generic Other Apr 2021 #1

Qualified Immunity? multigraincracker Apr 2021 #2

'Sorry.' elleng Apr 2021 #3

No way. She illegally entered a government building, and broke into the congressional chamber JohnSJ Apr 2021 #4

That is not the court standard. former9thward Apr 2021 #60

She was part of an attack on the capital. This is not just a "police killing", it was a threat JohnSJ Apr 2021 #69

The "They" who cleared the officer were fellow officers not a court or jury. former9thward Apr 2021 #90

Most cases? Can you give specifics where the capital was attacked on January 6, and those JohnSJ Apr 2021 #95

The suit was just filed. former9thward Apr 2021 #97

Excuse me. You made a general statement: JohnSJ Apr 2021 #105

By your own statement you are going to reject any example I show. former9thward Apr 2021 #106

No, it tells me you cannot discern the very real difference between the two, because there are JohnSJ Apr 2021 #107

She was a direct threat to the police who killed her. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #84

Exactly. It is called self-defense because it was reasonable to assume that violence was JohnSJ Apr 2021 #96

This asshole was a terrorist LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #5

Veni, vidi, fregit per fenestram, ego got iecit (I came, I saw, broke through the window, got shot) Xipe Totec Apr 2021 #6

+! speak easy Apr 2021 #38

I'm Tndem615 Apr 2021 #7

Wish people would drop the Reich Wing meme that she was "unarmed". It's a distraction w no weight.nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #78

She's a domestic terrorist, not a common rioter Submariner Apr 2021 #8

In common sense, yes quakerboy Apr 2021 #66

The sense of entitlement of these people Dr. Shepper Apr 2021 #9

No kidding USAFRetired_Liberal Apr 2021 #17

Right? intheflow Apr 2021 #24

Maybe bin Laden's family can sue next. NYC Liberal Apr 2021 #40

Not like she was walking down the street while black. rickyhall Apr 2021 #10

Exactly! She wasn't shot in the back while running away. n/t rainin Apr 2021 #86

Easy defense, security heard insurrectionists shouting kill, hang, etc. Jon King Apr 2021 #11

Loonie genes. Nt BootinUp Apr 2021 #12

If they'd popped the 1st 4 or 5 thru the windows, the whole thing would've ended right then. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #13

This country Tndem615 Apr 2021 #14

Yup! burrowowl Apr 2021 #15

Nope. TheProle Apr 2021 #34

No, we tried that already with the Native Americans and enslaved Black Americans. intheflow Apr 2021 #26

Fuck traitors. Full stop. TheProle Apr 2021 #32

Oh, there's a good Republican ad! Nonsense. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #80

trolls gonna troll RandiFan1290 Apr 2021 #81

And exactly what that is. Expecting agreement I imagine. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #101

You may be fooling most here RandiFan1290 Apr 2021 #82

why would they do that though? quakerboy Apr 2021 #67

I think after she was shot no one else tried to go in those windows. alphafemale Apr 2021 #88

I meant the first ones breaking into the building from the outside. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #102

Our relative was part of an insurrection and now we should be compensated rpannier Apr 2021 #16

Two words for that treasonous veteran's legal team.. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #18

LMAO Mysterian Apr 2021 #19

She may not have had guns but she had weapons. keithbvadu2 Apr 2021 #20

And she was going to let the rest of the mob in to kill... brush Apr 2021 #74

Good luck with that orangecrush Apr 2021 #21

Oh well RayStar Apr 2021 #22

The officer had no way to assume she was neither armed nor dangerous IbogaProject Apr 2021 #23

So as long as a police officer says someone might have been armed MichMan Apr 2021 #58

I seem to recall radical noodle Apr 2021 #75

Moron Martyr? czarjak Apr 2021 #25

She died before she could reproduce. "Darwin award" time? . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #77

There is no right to riot The Mouth Apr 2021 #27

Vandals should be shot and killed MichMan Apr 2021 #41

She wasn't a vandal. She was a violent insurrectionist threatening the safety of lawmakers. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #46

Replying to the posters own words MichMan Apr 2021 #51

Breaking into the anti-chamber of the Senate is not just any old property damage. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #70

You are correct The Mouth Apr 2021 #94

This was way beyond vandalism and you know it. n/t Downtown Hound Apr 2021 #50

Replying to what the poster I replied to wrote MichMan Apr 2021 #55

I belleive he also said threatening others Downtown Hound Apr 2021 #57

He said damaging property OR threatening others MichMan Apr 2021 #59

Again, full force of the state Downtown Hound Apr 2021 #62

Thank you The Mouth Apr 2021 #93

Spray painting a fence is vandalism. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #56

Post removed Post removed May 2021 #109

She "should have complied." Grokenstein Apr 2021 #28

She had a quick death. Not like somebody sat on her for 9 min 29 sec. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2021 #30

Not so quick. I made the mistake of watching the video. It wasn't pretty. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #49

The one time these folks don't back the blue IronLionZion Apr 2021 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #42

She was duly warned to stop..she did not. PortTack Apr 2021 #31

Yep. The guy standing next to her when she was shot says as much Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #44

I felt bad for her at first Alien Life Form Apr 2021 #33

These types of lawsuits usually work only when it is determined the police violated department ColinC Apr 2021 #35

Terrorist's family sues Police - better headline. ZonkerHarris Apr 2021 #36

Ah, yes, I remember all the Confederate soldier families who won suits against the north Rabrrrrrr Apr 2021 #37

Good luck with that. Breaking into the Capitol by overwhelming security and beating some of Martin68 Apr 2021 #39

Ridiculous. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #43

I hope the family loses and has to pay legal fees. Gore1FL Apr 2021 #45

The cop who shot her should countersue. Downtown Hound Apr 2021 #53

wow, we really are in bizarro world NewHendoLib Apr 2021 #47

LOL. Good luck with that. Downtown Hound Apr 2021 #48

She should have just complied. Swede Apr 2021 #52

No, she should not have engaged in a criminal act in the first place. cstanleytech Apr 2021 #73

She should have complied LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #100

There were Congress people at the other end of the hall. Kablooie Apr 2021 #54

I hope the lawyer plans on not making a cent off of this case. BigmanPigman Apr 2021 #61

It took them over 3 months to find an attorney TexasBushwhacker Apr 2021 #87

I thought she was shot in the throat? BigmanPigman Apr 2021 #104

Nope, left shoulder TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #108

Under US law, the family of the terrorist has to wait six months before filing lawsuit LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #103

The family should be suing trump... BleedsBlue Apr 2021 #63

I feel nothing on any support for her Pas-de-Calais Apr 2021 #64

F off traitor family!! aeromanKC Apr 2021 #65

They all should have been shot! pfitz59 Apr 2021 #68

This asshole was a terrorist LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #71

She was in the act of committing a actual crime so the shooting was completely legit according to cstanleytech Apr 2021 #72

The police lieutenant could not stop to enquire if she was armed or not. :eyes: Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #76

I know it's the headline, but calling them "rioters" diminishes the crime, IMO Withywindle Apr 2021 #79

No sympathy. None. n/t MrModerate Apr 2021 #83

If she could testify, it would probably sound like this: DFW Apr 2021 #85

If memory serves me accurately, She was armed with a gun when she attempted to "enter" msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #89

Very few of them actually had guns. But they were armed with clubs/tasers/spray etc alphafemale Apr 2021 #91

Right. Which is why I recall her being armed was different from the other monsters. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #92

She was armed with a thousand or more violent crazies who wanted to kill members Vinca Apr 2021 #98

The fellow terrorists arrested who were part of this attack should be charged with felony murder LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #99

I'm sure the Greenwald/Jimmy Dore left agincourt May 2021 #110

Nice headline, Newsweek blogslug May 2021 #111

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes NT Happy Hoosier May 2021 #112

I blame Trump. EndlessWire May 2021 #113