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cayugafalls

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16. That is not how it works. I worked on control systems and complex systems,
Sat May 8, 2021, 01:11 PM
May 2021

like pipeline distribution networks have a very complex set of computer controls, checks and valves that need monitoring and controlling and all of it is done via software running on programmable controllers. There is no way to manage the amount of valves and controls manually, it has to be done with computers and they have to be networked.

These controllers are critical in making sure that valves open when they are supposed to and therefore any hack related to infiltrating the systems in place would necessitate bringing down the entire system until security could be guaranteed so that a valve that controls say an emergency pressure release valve does not open when an undesired presence of fuel could mean an environmental disaster.

We do not know how the hackers gamed the system. Most likely they exploited a vulnerability in the firewall and an email got through that should not have.

That is why training your employees to not click on links in emails is critical and there needs to be quarterly security audits in all critical infrastructure facilities. Until that happens, systems are vulnerable.

A stupid computer system, if you ask me. ancianita May 2021 #1
So its not just a matter of punk kid hackers.. Maxheader May 2021 #2
Well it could be that, too. Maybe even anti-fossil ecohackers. ancianita May 2021 #3
Got it...thanks.. Maxheader May 2021 #19
I've never understood that myself oldsoftie May 2021 #4
Maybe ancianita May 2021 #5
I agree. This shit is only gonna get worse oldsoftie May 2021 #11
It's more nuanced than you think GregariousGroundhog May 2021 #12
Cool. So are you saying this was not due to their own system vulnerability? ancianita May 2021 #15
I agree with the 'usually' part about running on separate networks. cayugafalls May 2021 #18
That is not how it works. I worked on control systems and complex systems, cayugafalls May 2021 #16
I'm sure I don't know how any of it works. ancianita May 2021 #20
You're welcome. My apologies if I came off abrupt. ;-) cayugafalls May 2021 #24
Good lord. You should have gone after his job. ancianita May 2021 #25
mmmm llashram May 2021 #6
And China. We're in a pincer attack situation from both, and might not be able to determine ancianita May 2021 #21
For stuff like this, I would say they had little effect. Steelrolled May 2021 #22
Critical infrastructure control systems shouldn't be connected to the Internet dalton99a May 2021 #7
No kidding JohnSJ May 2021 #8
Yes, indeed. When I worked as defense contractor on what we called mission critical command iluvtennis May 2021 #10
There are standards in place for electric utilities GregariousGroundhog May 2021 #14
Thanks for that info on the standards - it's good to know it isn't adhoc. n/t iluvtennis May 2021 #26
The U.S. keeps getting warned Marthe48 May 2021 #9
Trump's buddy Pooty has been busy again Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #13
And systems that are open to such attacks should have been designed w/ safeguards built in, SWBTATTReg May 2021 #17
I imagine these systems did have safeguards built in. Steelrolled May 2021 #23
If you were a software designer (I was and you may be/have been), there ain't no software written... SWBTATTReg May 2021 #30
+ agree. n/t iluvtennis May 2021 #27
Good show on NPR about this stuff recently orangecrush May 2021 #28
I only have one thins to say about this OldBaldy1701E May 2021 #29
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