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JohnSJ

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5. I am not sure all electric is ready yet. The limiting factor will be the infrastructure. The grid
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:37 AM
Aug 2021

will have to be upgraded, and adequate charging stations need to be built along the freeways.

Within your home area level 2 charging should be adequate, but when traveling long distances dcfast charging is the fastest charging time, about 15 to 20 minutes to charge a 300 mile electric range car to 80%. A challenge though is regular DCfast charging usage will degrade the battery much quicker over time than a level 1 or level 2 charging, and the batteries are not cheap to replace.

Just taking California alone, it may need as many as 25000 dcfast charging stations in the next 5 years to support 5 million electric vehicles on the road by 2030.

As of March 2021 there are about 41,400 EV charging stations in the U.S., according to the Department of Energy. Fewer than 5,000 are fast chargers.

The other limiting factor is cost. Until the price of electric vehicles comes down to the cost of ICE, without subsidies, I think the electric car market will be mostly limited to the more affluent.

Another question that needs to be addressed is how are the batteries recycled and disposed of.

I think ultra low emission hybrid type vehicles will serve as transition vehicles until the issues above and more are resolved.

Producing 50% all electric vehicles by 2030 is going to be tough to achieve. We are talking eight years from now.

but we have to start somewhere. We are already four years behind because of trump











This is good promoting electric vehicles by a man who obviously loves cars, Joe Walleye Aug 2021 #1
This is a BIG DEAL. I had to chuckle at the knuckleheads who automatically replied with... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #2
Agree 10,000%! N/t WA-03 Democrat Aug 2021 #3
Ditto!! Need the quick battery recharge stations all over the states onetexan Aug 2021 #21
Even Jeep has electric vehicles now IronLionZion Aug 2021 #4
We have to, and recycling of the batteries has to be part of the plan JohnSJ Aug 2021 #6
I am not sure all electric is ready yet. The limiting factor will be the infrastructure. The grid JohnSJ Aug 2021 #5
Charging stations need to be standardized and interchangeable IronLionZion Aug 2021 #7
A good point. Musk has said he will open up Tesla Charging stations to other electric vehicles that JohnSJ Aug 2021 #10
How is all this electricity going to be produced? Coal? n/t hibbing Aug 2021 #9
A point that doesn't get talked about enough. In reality Coal is becoming less and less the primary JohnSJ Aug 2021 #11
Promises, promises. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2021 #8
It seems to be happening. Ford has an electric F150 that is very impressive, now the Jeep Wrangler. CentralMass Aug 2021 #12
Pledges are worth the word of the people making them Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #13
and those people that will decide to buy them MichMan Aug 2021 #16
Hard to buy what is not available Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #24
Offer generous subsidies, Mr. President, or it ain't going to happen. Aristus Aug 2021 #14
They respond to the benjamins of customers lined up wanting to buy electric vehicles MichMan Aug 2021 #17
The slower the car companies are to adapt to EVs Zorro Aug 2021 #15
Might take awhile MichMan Aug 2021 #20
Think you're about 200k short on the Tesla number Zorro Aug 2021 #22
Here is the link with the sales for 2020 MichMan Aug 2021 #23
Think your Tesla sales number is for US only Zorro Aug 2021 #26
Since the OP is regarding the US, that was why I posted US sales and stated as much MichMan Aug 2021 #27
Whatever... Zorro Aug 2021 #29
OK, if you want to discuss worldwide sales we can MichMan Aug 2021 #30
You seem to be a General Motors aficionado Zorro Aug 2021 #31
I have lived in SE Michigan my entire life and have many friends who work for them MichMan Aug 2021 #33
Much as IBM once sold that many more times PCs than all other companies combined. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #32
I think it is correct counting only US sales Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #28
EVs sold by GM... Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #25
In my current situation I don't think an electric vehicle would work for me. CentralMass Aug 2021 #18
Is there enough lithium being mined marie999 Aug 2021 #19
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